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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:00 pm 
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So while building or repairing a guitar, some sawdust and wood chips inevitably gets into the box and I found it really difficult to get it back out. How can I clean the inside of the box?

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Normally I've used a vacuum cleaner, shaking the guitar about, taking care not to block the soundhole and collapse the box.
But last time I used the vacuum cleaner, (nozzle just above the soundhole) with compressed air (from a sprayer turbine) which proved more efficient and kept the sawdust/chippings from flying about the shop.

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The name catgut is confusing. There are two explanations for the mix up.

Catgut is an abbreviation of the word cattle gut. Gut strings are made from sheep or goat intestines, in the past even from horse, mule or donkey intestines.

Otherwise it could be from the word kitgut or kitstring. Kit meant fiddle, not kitten.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:22 pm 
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Vacuum cleaner on suck to remove the large bits, vacuum cleaner on blow (shifts way move air then your typical air line) to remove the smaller stuff.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:14 pm 
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Play Stairway to Heaven. That should do it.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:41 am 
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Pretend you dropped a pick in there and shake it 'till you make it, lol.

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Remove the top and vacuum. Or compressed air.

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I used popcorn once on a very funky old guitar. Shake it around, dump it out, then vacuum.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 10:31 am 
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I have heard of using rice to clean inside, but I think Tai is only concerned about saw dust.

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Yea, sawdust is really difficult to get out, it sticks to anything and nothing less than direct wiping will get rid of it. I have noticed on many occasion that sawdust would get into the box and once it's inside, no amount of shaking would remove it.

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Shake with a fresh tack rag in the box.


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I carefully use the shop vac with a soft brush attachment that came with our central vac for the house. (but don't tell my wife - she's been looking for that attachment for years!). It works really well and gives that soft scrubbing action to pick up that hard to remove sawdust. Anything else that remains in the guitar I joke that it's no charge, the sawdust is free. :)

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One caution with compressed air--Taylor tells me that the bodies can explode. Bet that's exciting! I use it but not too much and make sure to not block the soundhole with my hand. I have my students use a vacuum.

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Home Depot has a little pistol-grip compressed air gun that runs about $6* in most places, and it has a 1/8" ID line, so throttles between a gentle breeze and whatever your compressor will put out. I use this with a 1/8" ID vinyl flex line to direct air inside guitars, or to run the line through the tail pin hole and 1" ID vac line in sound hole.


* $483 in CA, NY, CT, due to mandatory trigger lock and CEPA air filtration regulations; $606 in MD due to mandatory $600 sortagun-shaped object registration fee, background check, fingerprinting, DNA sample, and cavity search. CO limits use to less than 10 psi and compressors of less than 3 gallon air storage capacity.


The more I read about the silly gun laws in the lower 48- the more I want to stay in Alaska. The 2nd amendment is alive and thriving here. You can buy a military grade blow torch, an AR-15, an AK-47, a Glock 40, and a .44 Magnum at your local yard sale- or in 30 minutes at Sportsman's Warehouse.


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The more I read about the silly gun laws in the lower 48- the more I want to stay in Alaska. The 2nd amendment is alive and thriving here. You can buy a military grade blow torch, an AR-15, an AK-47, a Glock 40, and a .44 Magnum at your local yard sale- or in 30 minutes at Sportsman's Warehouse.


...sounds about right. drill baby drill.
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Suck and Blow seems to be the answer!!!

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Joe Beaver wrote:
Suck and Blow seems to be the answer!!!


I think that can be said for just about every problem in life! ;)

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Todd Stock wrote:
Home Depot has a little pistol-grip compressed air gun that runs about $6* in most places, and it has a 1/8" ID line, so throttles between a gentle breeze and whatever your compressor will put out. I use this with a 1/8" ID vinyl flex line to direct air inside guitars, or to run the line through the tail pin hole and 1" ID vac line in sound hole.


* $483 in CA, NY, CT, due to mandatory trigger lock and CEPA air filtration regulations; $606 in MD due to mandatory $600 sortagun-shaped object registration fee, background check, fingerprinting, DNA sample, and cavity search. CO limits use to less than 10 psi and compressors of less than 3 gallon air storage capacity.


Ha! Best post of the week!!

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Tony_in_NYC wrote:
Remove the top and vacuum. Or compressed air.


I build all my guitars with a removable top so I can vacuum more efficiently.


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Remove the top and vacuum. Or compressed air.


I build all my guitars with a removable top so I can vacuum more efficiently.


its all velcro these days


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fingerstyle1978 wrote:
Todd Stock wrote:
Home Depot has a little pistol-grip compressed air gun that runs about $6* in most places, and it has a 1/8" ID line, so throttles between a gentle breeze and whatever your compressor will put out. I use this with a 1/8" ID vinyl flex line to direct air inside guitars, or to run the line through the tail pin hole and 1" ID vac line in sound hole.


* $483 in CA, NY, CT, due to mandatory trigger lock and CEPA air filtration regulations; $606 in MD due to mandatory $600 sortagun-shaped object registration fee, background check, fingerprinting, DNA sample, and cavity search. CO limits use to less than 10 psi and compressors of less than 3 gallon air storage capacity.


The more I read about the silly gun laws in the lower 48- the more I want to stay in Alaska. The 2nd amendment is alive and thriving here. You can buy a military grade blow torch, an AR-15, an AK-47, a Glock 40, and a .44 Magnum at your local yard sale- or in 30 minutes at Sportsman's Warehouse.


If we had a political forum that would be a good
place to discuss gun laws. However we don't ;)

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Filippo Morelli wrote:
He's not discussing gun laws. He's saying how awesome Alaska is :-)

Now ... If we had an Alaska forum ....

Filippo


Indeed the 49th state is almost completely awesome. That whole sun never going down all summer/forest fire thing is my only real complaint. It's my bad though- I get all "cold dead hand" at the mention of "someone" taking my home depot spray-gun that can only hold an ounce of lacquer and be sprayed constantly for .05 milliseconds at a time...


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It's my bad though- ...



Can you please translate for an old...ish, non hip man?


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Yeah, "it's my fault".


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Todd Stock wrote:
I was talking about pistol grip compressed blow guns...where did you guys get firearms from? Injuries from compressed air are a serious thing - is it even debatable that we need common sense compressor and spray accessory regulation?


compressed air pistol grip guns don't blow people - people blow people.

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John A wrote:
Todd Stock wrote:
I was talking about pistol grip compressed blow guns...where did you guys get firearms from? Injuries from compressed air are a serious thing - is it even debatable that we need common sense compressor and spray accessory regulation?


compressed air pistol grip guns don't blow people - people blow people.


Oh... This....ahahahaha!!!! I. Can't. Stop. Laughing!!!
Can't breathe....so good..so funny!! HAHAHAHA!!!!

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