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JSDenvir
 Post subject: Baritone 12-string
PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:20 pm 
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A friend of mine has his heart set on a baritone 12-string. Not only have I never heard one, I've never heard of one.

Any thoughts? Ideas? Opinions? Well-justified accusations of insanity? :-)

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kfish
 Post subject: Re: Baritone 12-string
PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:37 pm 
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The late Lance McCollum made a few baritone 12 strings. Jaquie Gipson played a borrowed one on her Images cd and there are clips on her website. Pretty amazing tone.

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Chris Pile
 Post subject: Re: Baritone 12-string
PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:49 pm 
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I get tuning down a bit.... baritones just don't sound right to me, and a 12 string? idunno

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I believe the builder is Yamamoto, and I think he's in the States. -- db
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 Post subject: Re: Baritone 12-string
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This guy has worked out one with Santa Cruz; he is an artist endorser for them:

http://www.kevinkastning.com

It was the one on which McCollum based his (scale length, anyway). And he has used it on various albums; there are clips on his site and at amazon.com.

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Chris Pile
 Post subject: Re: Baritone 12-string
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This guy has worked out one with Santa Cruz:

http://www.kevinkastning.com


OH, CRAP!!!!!!!
That guy used to be my roommate!
I could tell you stories that would make your hair stand on end...

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Ian Cunningham
 Post subject: Re: Baritone 12-string
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I like the idea of a baritone 12 string. If I didn't build the things I'd definitely commission one one day.

Chris Pile wrote:
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This guy has worked out one with Santa Cruz:

http://www.kevinkastning.com


OH, CRAP!!!!!!!
That guy used to be my roommate!
I could tell you stories that would make your hair stand on end...


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Freeman
 Post subject: Re: Baritone 12-string
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Many of the old ladder braced guitars (Stella, Tonk, etc) were long scale and designed to be tuned to B or so which makes them quasi-baritone. They have a distintive sound associated with Leadbelly, Willie McTell, Paul Geremia, and a few others. Modern builders include Todd Cambio (Fraulini) and a couple of others - I have built one - there is some pretty good information in the MIMF archives. Here is the 26.5 inch 12 fret 000 Stella clone next to a 25.4 inch 14 fret OM

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The Martin Pete Seeger model is another modern baritone 12. I haven't had a chance to play one but I would expect it to sound very different than a Stella-clone

http://elderly.com/new_instruments/items/J12SO.htm
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Brad Goodman
 Post subject: Re: Baritone 12-string
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Some people refer to the Stella clones as Baritones-as stated 26-1/2" scale tuned to C or B.


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