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Ken McKay

Post subject: Re: "The Ultimate Binding Jig" is all grown up

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:52 pm

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Nice Jig Chris, I might want one. I don't like being limited by the bearing size.

Here is me doing it by hand on a homemade doughnut set up. I can envision mounting your jig into the table top. I like to use my knuckles to keep the body level like this.
[youtube]https://youtu.be/nuFEOzBOOBw?t=5m43s[/youtube]

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Chris Ensor

Post subject: Re: "The Ultimate Binding Jig" is all grown up

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:16 am

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Ken McKay wrote:

Ken,
If you are mostly doing thin bodies like the style in your video, you are going to want one of my new solid guides. I am hoping my machinist will have some done in the next week or two.

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kencierp

Post subject: Re: "The Ultimate Binding Jig" is all grown up

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:23 am

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Looks like a very well made device - interesting price point? It would seem to me that with the "dumb bell slide" adjustment feature (which I like) that you pretty much eliminated the need for multiple dumb bell sizes. I know there are units out there that use single dimension adjustable vertical guides including ours, and they yield very precise channels.

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Chris Ensor

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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:47 am

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kencierp wrote:

interesting price point?

Ken,
Being made of all aluminum makes it very expensive to produce- especially since aluminum keeps going up in price. If you compare my jig to ones of similar to construction being sold by lmi, stew mac, luthier tool, and canadian luthier supply, I believe my jig is priced in the low side of the market.

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CraigG

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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:56 am

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ernie

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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:27 am

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Hi chris greetings from KC. I did build a buffer from caswell/fox thanks for the photos of your DIY setup. I like the zero feature on your jig. I bought the luthier tools jig which is similiar to yours for binding ukes but I do hand work on the tight curves .Look forward to seing the accessory for ukes an mandos. Do you think the upgrade mod can be adapted to the luthier tools jig? or maybe bliss

should check with chris klumper in seattle . cheers ernie

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Chris Ensor

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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:34 am

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ernie wrote:

should check with chris klumper in seattle . cheers ernie

Ernie,
I have never used the luthier tool jig and don't feel comfortable trying to mod their design to work with my guide. I would contact them directly to see if they can help you with a sollution.

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ernie

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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 8:37 pm

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Thanks chris , spoke to chris K , no he is not making an addition to the routing/binding jig but they will be coming out with a new upgraded version in aug or sept.I picked his brain about why I/m out 20-30 thou on my cuts and he xplained all the variables to me .Tomorrow I will be building a uke cradle holder for starters and spending more time making sure everything is as flat as possible in the build process .Thanks again.

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kencierp

Post subject: Re: "The Ultimate Binding Jig" is all grown up

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:17 am

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We certainly want our channels to be as accurate as possible - but as an observation, at the Martin factory, even with their advanced tooling, each guitar is inspected with gauges and the rebates are are filed and sanded to hone in on the desired dimensions.

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Chris Ensor

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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:03 pm

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kencierp wrote:

I agree. I always double check my channels and adjust them by hand when necessary.

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Chris Ensor

Post subject: Re: "The Ultimate Binding Jig" is all grown up

Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 1:19 pm

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For those who requested it, I have put together a tutorial on using the ultimate binding jig. I don't have a guitar ready for binding currently, but this shows everything except cutting a channel on an actual guitar. I will update this, once I have a guitar in that stage.

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Clinchriver

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Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 3:36 pm

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Nice tut. I'm a ways out on guitar to bind myself but its nice have the jig ready to go :mrgreen:

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Leftyprs

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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:37 am

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Chris, how does this version vary from mine?

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Chris Ensor

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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:32 am

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Leftyprs wrote:

Chris, how does this version vary from mine?

It does vary a bit. You have version 1. This is now the third version- which has the zero bar and a knob to lock the adjustment arm rather than screws.

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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:53 pm

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Nice looking set up there Chris, I can see one of those in my future. Might have to put my other style up for sale in the classifies....

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Steve Frady

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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:29 pm

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That looks like a good tool. I have seen pictures of the earlier versions and I could not visualize how it worked. I think I understand now. Can the new version be purchased?

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James Orr

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Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 7:51 pm

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Being able to set the depth of cut like that is pretty slick.

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Chris Ensor

Post subject: Re: "The Ultimate Binding Jig" is all grown up

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:49 pm

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Steve Frady wrote:

That looks like a good tool. I have seen pictures of the earlier versions and I could not visualize how it worked. I think I understand now. Can the new version be purchased?

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James Orr wrote:

Being able to set the depth of cut like that is pretty slick.

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Thanks James. I try to operate off the KISS philosophy: Keep It Simple Stupid.... laughing6-hehe

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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 8:29 am

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I've been studying your jig for cutting binding channels and it looks great. Since I have a milling machine and lathe, I thought I would try to make one too. Currently, I use a "tower" type that rides up and down and guitar is on a sled. One question-- Could I replace the "dumbbell" with just a short piece of pipe attached to the center or main support? It looks like the knurled knob/screw is holding the dumbbell to the main support. I know you said earlier that you had originally built it to interchange the dumbbells.

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Chris Ensor

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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:46 am

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Here is an updated version of the tutorial for the ultimate binding jig- now with a demonstration of how to make a cut on a guitar body.

Also, I am proud to announce that I have received a patent on my jig.

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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:10 am

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Looks nice!

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Terence Kennedy

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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:16 pm

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Great! Do you use a sprial downcut bit? Have you used it on archtops?

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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:16 am

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Terence Kennedy wrote:

Great! Do you use a sprial downcut bit? Have you used it on archtops?

I use a 1" shear cut bit which gives me nice and clean edges. I don't build archtops so I have not had an opportunity to try it out on one...

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James Orr

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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:25 pm

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Hey Chris, just out of curiosity, how do you approach florentine cutaways?

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