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 Post subject: Carbon rods
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:28 pm 
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I'm looking for solid rectangular section carbon rods for neck reinforcements. So far I've only been able to find them on Stewmac, but I'm in the UK and shipping is expensive. Are there any other places that sell them?

Incidentally, is there anything wrong with using hollow tubes to reinforce the neck? Would it affect the sound?

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 Post subject: Re: Carbon rods
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:39 pm 
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You can try this place, Peter. https://goodwinds.com/

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 Post subject: Re: Carbon rods
PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:48 pm 
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You can also try ACP Composites Inc. http://www.acpsales.com/home.html


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 Post subject: Re: Carbon rods
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I spent ages looking for these for my mandolin build, and could not find anyone in the UK who could supply the right dimensions. Though since I have seen them at http://www.tonetechluthiersupplies.co.uk/guitar-making-parts/truss-rods.html Hope this helps

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 Post subject: Re: Carbon rods
PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:13 am 
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I too had little success finding CF or graphite in the UK. Of course, there are plenty of places in the US.
I'll see if my German colleague can source them from Germany. I'll let you know.

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 Post subject: Re: Carbon rods
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You could search here: http://www.r-g.de/en

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 Post subject: Re: Carbon rods
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I spent ages looking for these for my mandolin build, and could not find anyone in the UK who could supply the right dimensions. Though since I have seen them at http://www.tonetechluthiersupplies.co.uk/guitar-making-parts/truss-rods.html Hope this helps

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Those look suspiciously like the sizes that Stew Mac sell and if you are buying four or more Stew Mac would still be cheaper even after shipping and Duty/VAT. Tonetech may do volume discounts if you ask them nicely though - but if they are buying from Stew Mac and reselling there probably won't be much in it.

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 Post subject: Re: Carbon rods
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ACP Composites has these rods that I use.

.125"x.325"x24" Rectangular Carbon Rod
SKU RT-06A
Our price: $6.49
including CA Sales Tax $0.49

They are only $6.00 (Subtracting CA sales Tax) and they can be cut easily with a hack saw. I don't know what shipping will be but it should be cheaper then Stew Mac.


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 Post subject: Re: Carbon rods
PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:59 pm 
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Looking this over, I had a look at the economics:-
I can get 6 - 18 inch bars 3mm x (roughly) 9mm section from this http://shop1.r-g.de/item/720003 site (3mm x30mm section) for 19.75 euros + 24 euros shipping = 43.75 euros = £36.45, i.e. just over £6.00 each
That's only buying one pultruded bar.
Add one new wet tile saw at £40 (wickes), buy and process 4 bars, 24 rods for about £125.80 total, or £5.25 each.
New blades are £11
A lot less than Tonetech or SM. and I would still hopefully have the saw....
Might be worth the trouble, to me anyway...
(I know, too much time on my hands laughing6-hehe )

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 Post subject: Re: Carbon rods
PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 1:23 pm 
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You could search here: http://www.r-g.de/en


Thank you all for the replies. This one looks to be perfect, but apparently carbon is defined as 'hazardous material' so the shipping is still horrendous... £35 all together for 2 1m long rods :?
I just found this one which is a little better. Shipping's still £15 to mainland UK though... http://www.woolmer.co.uk/index.php?main ... th=112_114

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 Post subject: Re: Carbon rods
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Thank you all for the replies. This one looks to be perfect, but apparently carbon is defined as 'hazardous material' so the shipping is still horrendous...


...i wonder why it is regarded as hazardous...? combustable? i wonder if coal would be in the same category...


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 Post subject: Re: Carbon rods
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What about these guys?
http://www.sussex-model-centre.co.uk/sh ... p?id=22721


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