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PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:04 pm 
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I quoted Dujokers post from the previous page because my comment ended up on the next page and it would seem out of context without them.

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These are shots he posted of his guitar. I said it looked a lot like a Danelectro.



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Yea,

Here is the one I was talking about.

It is a 1965 Danelectro Convertable. Um... yes I am old enought to remember it...


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:51 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:07 am 
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Been playing around with it and I'm severely out of practice and need to spend a couple days rememorizing a few songs and seeing what I need to adjust or fix. So far I can see where my saddle is a hair to high. I think the under saddle transducer might have lifted it up too much. And I think I might drill the dowels out at some point and replace them with bone. I wanted to hear the electric side of it so I went ahead fastened on the hotrail where it couldn't vibrate and wiggle and with a lil height adjustment I was able get it up and running. I've got to say there's a nice balance between the electric and acoustic elements. There's a lil sustain in the sound when in electric mode but it's nothing I can't compensate for in my playing. I like that muddy Drop D sound so it really does balance out. I think by laminating an extra thickness of the maple where I put it helped out there. I might be wrong here but I think it helps dull the vibration that's made by the soundboard. Almost like it was sitting in a solid body. I think I might make another access panel one with a hole, just to have it. But it sounds good acoustically with or with out the panel in place. Any way that's my conclusion so far at day 1. Give me a few days to get my bearings and I'll post a sound byte with some acoustic riffs and some electric riffs to show you what I mean.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:48 am 
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Congratulations! I see your going to your next guitar. It looks good.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 11:52 am 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:44 pm 
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Well done, Jeremy! Here's to many more! :)


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:32 pm 
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Thanks everybody. Yea I have already started buying parts for my second build, trying to figure out which radius or radii that I need on my fret board. Which brings me too what I need help with next. I got over zealous when installing my frets and didn't realize that my fretboard had no radius or really that it needed it. DA me right??!!. Well I know now that's for sure. After playing for a few days and really taking time to listen I'm hearing a few bugs and think that putting a radius on the fretboard will pretty much fix what I'm hearing. So I need to remove all my frets first. What's the best way to pull them out? And what do I do about the ones that are glued in? Or should I just try to remove the fret board itself at this point?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:55 pm 
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It also helps to make sure it's tune!!!! 'Nuff said!! Still needs fret work but I can do that slowly. Saw stewmac had fret pullers and chip stoppers and then found both for half the price elsewhere. Other than the obvious it plays pretty good. It has a tiny sustain problem in E mode but I was thinking I could laminate a shaved piece of walnut as a pickup cover to hide my mounting hole and to give me more bite to screw my pickup in tighter and the hard wood allows my PU to vibrate less canceling out the sustain.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:05 pm 
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There used to be a tradition here on the OLF that goes something like this....

Very well done Joker!!! [clap] [clap] [clap] [clap] [clap] [clap] [clap] [clap] [clap] [clap]

Good going - it's clear that you are now hooked on guitar building! Welcome to the club! :)


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:25 am 
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I have been looking for inspiration for my next guitar but there's not a lot of unique designs. Page after page after page of the same concepts. Don't get me wrong i like classical guitars but I want something different. I know I want to try to perfect the sound of my last guitar but I want a cool shape. The only shape I really like though is the florentine cutaway. Do any of you know of any tutorials or links to other builds that can help me do a florentine? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:19 am 
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Have any of you used the birkonium Mesquite fret boards? Do they need any special care for finishing?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 6:44 pm 
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Wow what a difference in my chordage a lil radius makes!!! I did a lil reading last night and read up on neck radiusing how to and fret pulling of course. What I found out was that there are at least two companies use flat or infinite radius on there guitars and that it's good for solo guitar but not much on rithym, because you really can't push the strings down enough to get a good sounding chord. Then I started looking at the radius on my BC rich and my purple POS. And saw the difference in the radii. So I picked up ( no name yet ) and started strumming and picking and decided I really didn't like the sound of my chords. Picking was fine but chords aren't pure. So I pulled all my strings off breaking my Treble E in the process which I knew was coming because I didn't file down my machine head holes and make them smoother. Done now. Then I got a couple of my special guitar files I make and started trying to put a radius on it. It's actually got a compound radius cause I left all the frets after 12 completely flat. After a lil time and effort and just a lil help from my E-sander I got it. I refined it where I thought I might need it by feel just fingering the fret board by itself till I was comfortable with it. Restrung it after a lil fine sanding and wow what a difference in my chording. It sounds pure and harmonious instead of flat.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:01 pm 
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I've been looking at fretboards and ran up on one I like but it's got two more frets than I need. Is it possible to cut off the bottom section of heel on the fretboard without messing it up?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:40 pm 
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Totally. Just cut it where you want it to terminate.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:21 pm 
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Cool thank you.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 7:50 pm 
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Ordered a fret board today. It's preslotted and pre radiused. The only thing is its super wide measuring:

Nut====1.95---or----1 30/32
Heel===2.45----or----2 14/32

So I'm gonna have to do some fitting to the neck on top of cutting to the right fret. Now I'm pretty sure your supposed to match the neck to the fret board so I called the seller and he said it could be done the other way around. I hope this is right. Please correct me if he's wrong.

Also I've had to make some engineering changes to my next build.
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As you can see I'm gonna try to make a florentine cutaway. In order to make the cut outs go deep enough to be able to get to the frets I want I had to move the UTB down a 1/4 inch. I also raised the top of the guitar by 1/8 inch. The neck block looks tiny but I checked my dimensions with my first guitars block dimensions and it's right. I'm gonna make a new inside mold that's shaped like a regular non-cutout guitar tomorrow along with a new bending machine. Just gonna trade all the parts of the old one. And to make the cutouts I'm gonna use A pipe method. Seems easier than making a special mold just to bend those when I can just do it by hand. Any body that's done a florentine please chime in I could use your advice. And thanks to everybody.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 6:10 pm 
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Today has been a busy day. I ordered my brace wood from Stewmac this time to make sure they were quarter sawn though it didn't seem to matter on the last. So we got all those cut to size and then we cut some of this super tough birch plywood I use for my molds. We finished up by doing the neck and neck block joint since it required more thinking we had time to think. All in all a good day. Now I just need to make my new mold and bending form.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 5:17 am 
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Duhjoker wrote:
I have been looking for inspiration for my next guitar but there's not a lot of unique designs. Page after page after page of the same concepts. Don't get me wrong i like classical guitars but I want something different. I know I want to try to perfect the sound of my last guitar but I want a cool shape. The only shape I really like though is the florentine cutaway. Do any of you know of any tutorials or links to other builds that can help me do a florentine? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

Hmm unique designs? How about this one... :mrgreen: Seriously you have to check out Michi Matsuda if you haven't already.
Great job on your first btw! [:Y:]


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:02 pm 
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Thanks. Looks like something ol Gurney Halleck would play. Yea he has some nice pieces but I think that's a lil too much for me. He's very skilled. Today my oversized fret board came in. The guy was right, no problem at all to trim up. I have a fretboard that I use as a dummy that I taped to the new board traced it out and cut the extra off using a coping saw. I did make it a hair wider than my neck though just in case. Been working in my neck too. Already glued in the center strip just need to drill a hole for the retainer nut. I hope to bend my sides this weekend.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:51 pm 
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I'm definitely gonna try to do florentine cutouts this time. The only problem I can foresee is clamping the cutouts to the outer side pieces. Do any of you have any tips or tricks on gluing these pieces.

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