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Fred Tellier
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http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=70837&cat=51&ap=3

More than a router and set of stewmac or LMI bearings and cutter but looks like a well made tool for the Luthiers wanting to work without machinery.

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I have it. It is a very nice well balanced tool. I was dubious about the handle but with the flexibility in its positioning it really is nice to use. On some of the odd instruments I make there are area's that I can not route. I like it. I am a tool junkie though ...

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Looks a poor design to me. Cumbersome. Why do you need such a large handle (why do you need a handle at all!) and why does it need to swivel? Not to blow my own trumpet but I honestly think the solution that I came up with is a better design. Probably costs less than the varnish that has been applied to the Holtey for the whole set.
I'm afraid I wouldn't have the Holtey given, other than to sell it to a 'toolie'.

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$300?? Yikes!!
I think I'll shop for something more reasonably priced
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Wasn't this tool discussed several months back?

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i guess so. but it´s so shiny!

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Karl Holtey is a genius ...probably the most pre-eminent toolmaker in the world today, and this is just one more example of his superlative skills.
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Todd Stock wrote:
Great tool...not well suited to the intended purpose, but very, very pretty.

Holtey does impressive tools for the well heeled, but I would argue that Chris Lee at Veritas/Lee Valley and Tom Lie-Nielsen are the guys largely responsible for our current wealth of choices in the marketplace. In particular, Lie-Nielsen is probably more responsible for establishing the necessary conditions for the renaissance in woodworking hand tools than any other person or company, while Lee has been willing to push the envelop (even with some notable failures) and deliver some very good tools.


Who is Chris Lee ?

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He is the son of Lee Valley founder, Leonard Lee.

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Rob Lee, actually. (I only know cause he's taken so much of my money :-)
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For that price you can get a Bosch colt laminate trimmer, router bit and complete set of bearings, and have some change left over. Pretty though.
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Isn't the Schneider gramil really just as good?

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Yes, why wouldn't it be? At the end of the day it's a very simple tool, a guide for a cutter. Might be hard to believe but the simple wooden type that I made are as good as anything I've used. Over the years I've tried about 10 different versions of the gamil/ purfling cutter. Some are certainly better than others though.
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sdsollod wrote:
Isn't the Schneider gramil really just as good?


I have both, I mentioned that I am a tool junkie, and the Schneider gramil did do the job but no it is not as good. The first thing is the ease of adjustment, eliminating the need to find that dang allen wrench. Also the handle really allows one to have more control of the tool. I had thought the opposite would have been true but the tool is so well balanced the handle make it easy to apply controlled consistent force.

I can not really say it worth the price for the increased functionality it provides, but it is cool to see and hold.

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