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I suspect that more than one or two of the Fight Threads have been more or less fueled by binge drinking...

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Old growth, shmold growth!

Hi Michael,
If you have some, drop some in an envelope (info@fayguitars.com for my address) and send it to me -- then I will run the test again. Or I can send some EVO to anyone who would like to try this experiment for themselves. Once again, I perceived the difference as being very slight but having a hollow/tinny quality in the initial attack. A good description would be a bit of a "ping" sound in the attack.

And regarding thinned skinned, I would actually consider myself as being very, very hard to offend. For me, I just prefer more peaceful and respectful banter. Also, there is the issue that if I state something on a public forum and I feel like I need to go on the defensive -- then I have to engage in discussion because this is my business and reputation involved. Bear in mind, I wouldn't feel the need to defend myself if this were just a hobby of mine!!!

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Simon

I've got some EVO. I use it for my ukes. I'll give it a try.

I'll pop a chunk of ss in the mail.

Best,

M

Well, that's a new one! Unless you count going to the store when you run out as the period of "moderation."

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Phil

http://www.oleninstruments.com

"Those who tilt at windmills are only considered insane by those who can't see the dragon."

For the sake of discussion, let's, as we used to say, go from the sublime to the ridiculous. For the next test, use a fret made from a common poplar wood dowel pin. Would it sound the same as the EVO? Likely not. Why? Different material.

So my next question is why the difference on the SS? What is it about that initial attack that causes what you hear? Does the string bounce? Translate side to side? Does the fret itself ring for a split second?

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Phil

http://www.oleninstruments.com

"Those who tilt at windmills are only considered insane by those who can't see the dragon."

Todd and Filippo are great. The idea of iron shaping iron comes to mind. These are two guys that contribute to the forum selflessly and advocate for others. They're also good at keeping life interesting.

But I hear where you're coming from as well, Simon. FWIW, I'm extremely glad that you're a member here and would actually love to see you post more, not less. From what I gather, I don't think debates like this can damage the reputation you've developed for top flight instruments. I'd love to know more about the way you work and some of the thought that's gone into your guitars.

Agree with James' affirming words to you Simon. You have a keen eye to creative and appealing design; stepping a little ways outside of convention but steering clear of corny. I'd love to learn more from you not only in terms of building methodology but of design criterion as well. Keep your tap open in our direction!

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Doug

Don't let fear or common sense stop you from trying to build something