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PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:42 am 
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I have collected up some nice boards to cut into binding strips and have been trying to decide the best method to use to cut it up.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:57 am 
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Fred I use my big resaw for 3 in hdwd, and then thickness sand and rip with a 6 tpi 3.8in blade on ryobi 9 in BS . Now I I rip on large BS thin to 1.5 or 2.2mm on my thickness sander and cut on the large table saw using abt a .020 jewellers 6in saw blade. Seems to make nice clean cuts. I also have sanding discs for mY drill press for really thin stock


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:29 am 
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Table saw and thickness sander are the two tools I use. I cut them a little oversize on the saw and then do the rest of the cleanup on the thickness sander.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 4:45 pm 
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Fred, I use this on my table saw with the Freud blade like Todd.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:29 pm 
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Whatever style you choose I would say don't cut it until it is absolutely necessary. You never know when you may change your mind!
I use the tablesaw, pretty much just like Todd suggests.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:32 pm 
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Well Fred...the best method for making binding is the one that works for you.

Simple eh. laughing6-hehe


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Todd Stock wrote:
...7-1/4 Diablo 40 tooth...


Todd,
Are you using the Diablo D0740X/A crosscut blade?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:54 am 
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Filippo Morelli wrote:
Some people cut binding into block widths (say a half dozen bindings plus saw kerf), glue up purfling, then cut. I have never tried it (I do individuals) but I could certainly see its benefit.

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That is the way I do it. Take a .25x3x32 in block or some such size and glue up sheets of veneer to what ever purfling lines I want and then cut off on a band saw and run the strips through a drum sander. If I had a table saw I'd probably use that.


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I use one of those too expensive trimaster carbide bandsaw blades then finish on the drum sander. I find I can sand a whole pile at a time even the skinny way if I hold them altogether as I run them thru the drum sander.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:36 am 
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Hey Fred,

I also use the Rockler Thin-Rip jig on the table saw after I glue veneer to one side to get the side purling I want. It works very well for me.

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Filippo Morelli wrote:
jfmckenna wrote:
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Some people cut binding into block widths (say a half dozen bindings plus saw kerf), glue up purfling, then cut. I have never tried it (I do individuals) but I could certainly see its benefit.

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That is the way I do it. Take a .25x3x32 in block or some such size and glue up sheets of veneer to what ever purfling lines I want and then cut off on a band saw and run the strips through a drum sander. If I had a table saw I'd probably use that.

I know this because Randy Reynolds does his this way. He has a glue-up caul for making the sandwich if I recall. Next time I'm there I'll shoot photos.

Filippo


Same here - I use a neck blank for a caul on top of one of my benches that just happens to be nice and flat.

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Thanks for all the good advice. I ended up using my bandsaw and drum sander and now have way too much Curly Maple, Bloodwood, and Lacewood binding, I guess I need adult supervision around the shop. I was in the zone and just cut up all the boards I had available.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:12 am 
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Fred,

I like your choices - have you tried lacewood before? Just wondering how easy it is to bend.

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I found lace wood to bend quite easily and you sure can't beat the looks of it.


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Fred Tellier wrote:
~ and now have way too much Curly Maple, Bloodwood, and Lacewood binding, I guess I need adult supervision around the shop.


Is called "Stock" and me don't mean Todd. One day you gonna blink and is gonna be all gone, then you gonna wish you had cut more.

Regarding adult supervision... me visions are getting pretty clear and as long as me don't take anything sharp off of the property, (part of my release conditions) the adults leave me alone to run~a~muck on my own now days.

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PS...nice bindings

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To add and I know I have mentioned it before but I will again. I have had huge improvements in the performance of the Diablo blade by adding 2 blade stabilizers on either side of the blade.

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To add and I know I have mentioned it before but I will again. I have had huge improvements in the performance of the Diablo blade by adding 2 blade stabilizers on either side of the blade.

L.


I also found that adding the stabilizers really smoothed out the cutting performance.

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Link Van Cleave wrote:
To add and I know I have mentioned it before but I will again. I have had huge improvements in the performance of the Diablo blade by adding 2 blade stabilizers on either side of the blade.
L.


:lol: I just read what I wrote. I should have said: by adding 2 blade stabilizers, one on each side of the blade. The way I wrote it, it sounds like I have 4 stabilizers on there. [uncle]

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Link Van Cleave wrote:
Link Van Cleave wrote:
To add and I know I have mentioned it before but I will again. I have had huge improvements in the performance of the Diablo blade by adding 2 blade stabilizers on either side of the blade.
L.


:lol: I just read what I wrote. I should have said: by adding 2 blade stabilizers, one on each side of the blade. The way I wrote it, it sounds like I have 4 stabilizers on there. [uncle]


Well, I thought I knew what you meant 8-)

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I made use of 4 strips of the Lace wood binding I cut on my Irish Bouzouki build.

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Now I know I've got to get some lacewood. That is nice!

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