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I just missed on an old Hold Heet glue pot this morning and did another ebay search and found this. The seller has no feedback, so I was going to wait until reciept before posting this here. But they have already sold 3 of the 7 since this morning, so if you want to take a chance on a new seller they are $65 shipped for a new 1 qt pot.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/170991021178?ss ... 1497.l2649

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0% positive feedback, 0 transactions.....that would kinda make me nervous, but we all have to start somewhere i guess

Here’s what I use, it's called a little dipper crock pot:



It came free with a larger crock pot but I’m pretty sure you can get the small crock individually for under $20. The homemade closed cell foam lid has a hole for the glue jar (in this case a small glass spice jar) and keeps the glue at nearly perfect temp with the lid raised slightly.

Joe

I'm a Little Dipper user, too. The only thing that bugs me is the temp crawls up past 150F. That would be the advantage of the dedicated glue pot, but not worth the investment for me at this point.

The glue temp in my pot stays between 145 and 150 when the lid is raised and the pot is about 2/3 filled with water. I was contemplating adding a light dimmer to the cord but haven't needed to.

Joe

Little dipper user too. However, I often wonder how critical the temp is to the effectiveness of the glue? Is it just an urban myth about the 140 degrees? Wat would happen if it was heated to 170 or 180? Has anyone tested it this way? Hmm, think I'll take a look at that.

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I guess he is sold out now.

Should a glue pot have a lid?

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Not an urban myth. If you heat it past 150 degrees you are going to break the proteins chains and weaken the glue.

I thought the glue itself needed to be 145-150*F. Keeping the water bath at that temp does not guarantee that the glue is up to the same temp. You could experience premature gelling, which, as we all know, is embarrassing.

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I leave my squeeze bottle of glue in the pot when not actually applying glue and once it is up to the same temperature as the water it remains very constant. The little dipper pots vary by 5 to 10 degrees F as they cycle but the glue remains constant. I wondered if the temperature range of the pot was affecting the glue and watched my digital thermometer in the glue for several cycles of the pot which ranged from 142 to 150 and the glue stayed within a couple degrees of 145.

Fred

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I bought one of the pots. Mostly because I was curious. Ordered it Monday, it shipped yesterday, and I got it today. Pretty good service. It's NOS stuff apparently. The newspaper clipping that was packing material, and had been in the box a long time, was yellowed and was from 1987. You can tell the pot has been in the box a long time. That said, it's in perfect shape, and I assume will work fine when plugged in. Not a bad deal for half the price of one new from StewMac.

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After reading Barry's comment a few days ago, I decided to do some tests on hide glue working temp. I used glue that I had mixed about a year ago. This glue has been heated, frozen and microwaved over that period. I used three different wood samples: maple, cedar, and fir plywood. I heated the glue to 185-190 for about ten minutes then glued the pieces together and clamped. ( incidentally, even though the water was boiling, the glue would only reach 190 degrees. So maybe if the water in your gluepot is 140, your glue temp may be lower ) . Left the glued pieces to set overnight and this morning separated the glued halves. All three separated with significant wood fibres attached. So maybe heating glue to 170 or 180 may be just fine. See the attavhed pic

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My understanding about HHG breaking down in higher temps is that above 150 degrees or so it will BEGIN to break down. This is a problem in a production shop (or an olde tymie one where HHG was used) where the glue pots were hot all day and fired up with the same glue each morning. Higher temps and long exposure could cook the glue. I think most of us are heating up enough glue for a given work session and discarding the remainder. I doubt having it cycle up to 160 occasionally will be a problem.

hopefully someone with more knowledge than I on the subject will come along and confirm or correct my understanding.

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I use a 500cc plastic cup full of water, I microwave it for 2 minutes and it gets to the right temperature, and it holds it long enough to get the job done. No glue pots necessary. The glue itself is in a plastic bottle, much quicker to apply than brushing it on.

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