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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:48 am 
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Alexandru Marian wrote:
I didn't have the guts to use hide yet but I'm sure it has the potential to add more distorsion. There is quite a difference when doing headplates for example. Fish doesn't seem to add any big crown but hide can noticeably bend the headstock across the grain. It takes several good days to straighten out.
do you have an educated guess as to why the difference? less water content on fish glue? does fish glue - being more hygroscopic - release moisture more slowly to the wood? something completely different?
i might try FG on my next guitar (my first commission!) - last fingerboard i glued was indeed severely distorted after being glued to the neck.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:24 am 
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So does the zpoxy go bad when sitting around for awhile?


I buy my Zpoxy at the local hobby shop and the last batch was in use over 3 years with no problems and I have no idea how fresh it was when purchased. I use System Three T88 Epoxy for fingerboards and gluing carbon rods into my necks.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:01 pm 
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Fred, thank you!

That is exactly the info I was trying to get from this thread. My main concern was if I could use Z-Poxy of an unknown age. I have z-poxy on-hand that is just under 2 years old that I used on my previous build. Sounds like it would be worth trying if you have used some that is around 3 years old successfully. I can buy epoxy locally that is the same brand I used on my last fretboard. I'm not that happy with it as the resin completely setup in the bottle over the last year (only time I used it was for glueing a fretboard). Thus my question about a better epoxy. I had rather not spend $25+ on a large quantity as I'll likely not use it before it goes bad. So I may buy the 8oz of Great Planes epoxy at the local hobby shop again. I'll at least check if Hobby Lobby has a decent epoxy before going back to this brand (hate to add shipping cost to epoxy so prefer to buy local).

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So does the zpoxy go bad when sitting around for awhile?


I buy my Zpoxy at the local hobby shop and the last batch was in use over 3 years with no problems and I have no idea how fresh it was when purchased. I use System Three T88 Epoxy for fingerboards and gluing carbon rods into my necks.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:19 pm 
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I couldn't count how many fretboards I've glued with plain 'ol hardware store epoxy.... Even used 5 minute epoxy in a pinch, more than once, and have not heard of issues. It -is- the single largest glue joint in surface area, on the entire instrument, and it isn't in a great deal of stress.

If you doubt your epoxy, simply mix up a small batch, and see if it sets up hard or not. That'll tell ya. As far as I know, epoxy either works, or it doesn't. In other words, if it sets-up(IE: cures), it's good to go. Once cured, it won't suddenly get rubbery in the future.

But then again, I'm not a chemist or epoxy expert, so if someone more knowledgeable in the field of epoxies says otherwise, I'd trust them...


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