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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:54 am 
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I'm very excited to announce that Canadian Luthier Supply now has the Mark Kett binding jig available for order! Many people on the forum will remember this jig from several years ago before Mark stopped making them. With Mark's permission I am now offering my version of his jig, which is a very close copy of the original. This jig has a few unique features that make it different from other binding jigs which are currently available.

-Jig remains stationary while the guitar body gets rotated over the jig.
-No need to change bearings or cutters; cutting depth and width can be adjusted in a matter of seconds using the depth adjustment on the router and by changing the size of the slider
-Maximum binding/purfling width of .235", wider than other popular bit bearing kits on the market
-Easily adjust cutting width in .005" increments with fiber tape for precision channels
-No bearing marks left in the side of the guitar
-Compact design for easy storage

Please visit our website for more pictures and information. http://www.canadianluthiersupply.com/products/binding-jig

I'm putting together a youtube video which I hope to have completed in the next week or two. In the meantime please feel free to contact me with any questions. And check out the other thread on the jig. http://www.luthiersforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10101&t=38580

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:04 am 
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Just a plug for this binding cutter guys. This is the BEST binding cutter that I have ever used and I have owned and used every one on the market. I have tried all the others and keep coming back to this one. BTW, Martin Guitar uses a similar one in their factory as well. Josh, check your PM box.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:30 pm 
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I've got one and love it too.

It takes a while to develop the coordination to move the guitar past the cutter (practive without the router spinning). But once you get a feel for it, this thing is pretty nifty.

The one I bought from Mark Kett had a big enough mounting plate on it that I could attach a full sized, 9 amp, 1hp router onto the jig. So I bought an $80 one of those and have never taken it off the jig.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:15 am 
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I'd like to see a video, but I may spring for this.

I need a better way to do binding, I'm fixing to do a cutaway acoustic for somebody. My handheld thing may not be up for it.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:08 am 
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Jean made me this style of binding jig back in 1975 and I've been using it on every guitar since ... dead simple, but effective. I love it!


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:38 pm 
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Hey guys,

I placed an order for a router a few weeks ago so that I could setup a demo unit, but it has been backordered. After finding out yesterday that it is now not due to arrive till mid-Jan I'll be going out this afternoon to pick up a different router. I hope to shoot some video either over the weekend or next week and I will post it as soon as it is done.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:20 pm 
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Can this jig be used to do the fluch cut? (no channel)

And I assume u use a spiral downcut bit?

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I don't have this rig, but about 10-12 yrs ago had Mark make me a mortis and tenon rig and one to route the end graft and a few other things he was gettting into. If Mark Kett is doing it, it is as good as it can get. I use the jigs from him today. I will probably get this rig as I am looking for a new process, so looking forward to the demo.


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I'm pretty sure that Shelley Park uses a version of Mark Kett's jig. She posted a video about her building process where it is shown in use.
The first 20 seconds or so shows it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCYuPGj- ... 2A&index=8

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:30 pm 
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Mike,

The bit is actually a rebbeting bit like this one here http://www.leevalley.com/en/Wood/page.aspx?p=30111&cat=1,46168,69435,46176&ap=1 It is also pictured at the start of this thread.
The jig does not do a true flush cut, but the largest slider lets you cut a very shallow .03" channel. I use this for flush cutting top and backs before I true up the sides.

stan thomison wrote:
I don't have this rig, but about 10-12 yrs ago had Mark make me a mortis and tenon rig and one to route the end graft and a few other things he was gettting into. If Mark Kett is doing it, it is as good as it can get. I use the jigs from him today. I will probably get this rig as I am looking for a new process, so looking forward to the demo.

Just to clarify, I consulted with Mark before making these jigs (and received permision to copy aspects of his design) but he has not had any part in manufacturing of these jigs.

SteveG wrote:
I'm pretty sure that Shelley Park uses a version of Mark Kett's jig. She posted a video about her building process where it is shown in use.
The first 20 seconds or so shows it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCYuPGj- ... 2A&index=8

cheers


Yes, the jig in this video is the same style as the one I am offering, and appears to be one of Mark's original jigs. I have been using one identical to it for the past 9 years.

Video coming soon, stay tuned.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:29 pm 
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I'm interested in seeing the video, too. It does seem a little expensive. The pictures don't make it look like there's much in material cost?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:10 pm 
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Hi James,

There was a little bit of a discussion around the cost of this jig in the other thread that was addressing how this jig workes (http://www.luthiersforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10101&t=38580). While the raw materials may not cost much on their own, getting this many aluminum pieces precision made on CNC machines is not cheap. Also keep in mind that this is a total package which includes everything but a router. It is comparable in price to a number of other binding systems on the market.

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Thanks, Josh. That makes sense. Sorry for not checking in sooner.


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What are the exact size rabbets that the aluminum sliders make? .010 increments"? I have found tape awkward to use on spinning bearings but seems like it would be less hassle to use on these.

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pat macaluso wrote:
I have found tape awkward to use on spinning bearings but seems like it would be less hassle to use on these.


Why would the bearings ever spin ???


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 7:45 pm 
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There are 12 sliders starting at 31mm and going down to 20mm (diameter) in 1mm increments. This means the depth of cut difference between the sliders is .02". The fiber tape allows you to adjust the diameter in .005" increments by adding 1-3 layers of tape. Since these are fixed sliders you do not have any of the issues associated with trying to keep tape on a spinning bearing. Adding tape is quick and precise and in no way changes the function of the jig.

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murrmac wrote:
pat macaluso wrote:
I have found tape awkward to use on spinning bearings but seems like it would be less hassle to use on these.


Why would the bearings ever spin ???


They are spinning any time they are not contacting the sides.

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