Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Sat Aug 16, 2025 6:00 am


All times are UTC - 5 hours


Forum rules


Be nice, no cussin and enjoy!




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 7 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Western Red Cedar top
PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:56 pm 
Offline
Walnut
Walnut

Joined: Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:10 am
Posts: 29
I am starting a new build using western red cedar for the first time, although I have built several instruments using Sitka and Engleman spruce. Are there any considerations as far as top thickness and bracing that I should be aware of?

Thanks!

Pete


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 1:29 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:05 am
Posts: 9191
Location: United States
First name: Waddy
Last Name: Thomson
City: Charlotte
State: NC
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
Many say it should be 20 - 25% thicker, but I say treat it like it feels. Thickness depends on the piece of wood in your hand.

_________________
Waddy

Photobucket Build Album Library

Sound Clips of most of my guitars


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:08 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo

Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:32 pm
Posts: 321
I agree with Waddy. Each piece of wood has its own properties. Thickness depends on its stiffness & how it taps out. Also, WRC is very soft. Belch within a block of it and you get a dent. Chances are you'll be a master at steaming out dents by the end of the project.

_________________
michael propsom
www.propsomguitars.com


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:25 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:56 am
Posts: 1271
One other consideration is that cedar and redwood have less sheer strength than spruces so I like my X brace to be a little wider for more glue surface area. I'm also extra careful when scoring the finish around the bridge. If you score into the wood fibers, you really increase the chances of the bridge peeling.

_________________
http://www.chassonguitars.com


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:58 pm 
Offline
Walnut
Walnut

Joined: Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:10 am
Posts: 29
Thank you.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:30 pm 
Offline
Walnut
Walnut
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:57 pm
Posts: 21
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Country: Canada
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
This is not related to bracing etc. but something to consider. I don't have much experience (I am on my first acoustic build now, with WRC top) but with the little experience I've had so far with the red cedar I've found that no matter how I cut the soundhole (I've done a couple with ukuleles and now this guitar) I end up having to clean it up a bit with titebond because the end grain inside the soundhole is so soft that the wood fibers tend to open up and fall apart easily. Might want to think about this when cutting yours, I don't believe this is really a problem with spruce but you may want to be a little more cautious when cutting the soundhole than you otherwise would be. :P


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:36 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:01 pm
Posts: 3031
First name: Tony
Last Name: C
City: Brooklyn
State: NY
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
I have built two dreadnoughts with WRC tops. Both ended up in the area of .105" thick. But both pieces of WRC were very stiff in my opinion. Both guitars sound great and the guy who bought the second one I made has raved about it. I have the first. So like others have said, thickness depends on the piece of wood, don't burp near it or it will dent, and it should make a nice guitar.

_________________
http://www.CostaGuitars.com
PMoMC


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 7 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 27 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com