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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:24 pm 
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How would you get stuff like Tru Oil and other stuff that says "no air shipping" if they aren't sold on the island?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:28 pm 
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I live on an island, and it can be difficult to get some things. However, if you look around, you may find other industries that use some of the products you need. Car or furniture finishers may have some of the explosive products. Tru-oil can be found in some sporting goods places that handle guns. Or, you can check around on the web and you may find a place that will air ship products that others won't.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:15 am 
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I recall someone posting the basic ingredients to make Tru-Oil (I think they called it Polymerized Tung Oil, but I could be wrong).

Is it possible the raw ingredients would be easier to get locally?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:31 am 
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It is basically linseed oil, blended with some other oils.

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There are boats that go to islands. They carry things like heavy equipment, cars and any other thing that are impractical to ship by air. it may take a while, but it will get there the same way that acetone and other chemicals get there. I spent many months in Taiwan as an engineer working in semiconductor fabs. Believe me that there are chemicals far nastier than Truoil that make their way there :)

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:45 am 
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I have no idea how valid this is...

http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/vi ... ?tid=12156

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Make Your Own 'Tru-Oil' Varnish


Traditionally oil varnishes were used on the bowls of lutes, violins and other musical instruments (such as ouds?).

Oil varnish is basically made by heating linseed oil and softwood resins so that they combine together and then allowing the raw varnish to oxidise in sunlight for several months before use. Making an oil varnish suitable for instrument work is tricky and hazardous - the materials being highly combustible when heated. Oil varnish also requires some skill in its application by brush.

A popular alternative today is to use a so called 'hand rubbed' oil/varnish finish - an attractive semi-gloss finish that is easy to apply. Such finishes are generally known as 'Danish Oil' varnishes of which 'Tru-Oil' is a popular example.
Unlike making an oil varnish 'from scratch', a 'Danish Oil' is quickly and easily prepared by simply mixing together, in the correct proportions, materials readily available from local hardware stores or paint suppliers.

The components of a 'Danish Oil' varnish are Boiled (not raw) Linseed Oil and an oil based varnish all diluted to a desired 'watery' consistency with a paint thinner. Polymerised (not raw) Tung oil may be used in place of Linseed Oil and the thinners may either mineral spirit or pure Turpentine.

'Tru-Oil' is made from a mixture of 56% mineral paint thinners, 33% oil varnish and 11% linseed or Tung oil. The exact specification of the components are, of course, a trade secret.

The proportions of a 'Danish Oil' may be varied - the more varnish the quicker the drying time and the greater the dilution with thinners the more coats that are required to build a finish.

For these trials the same proportions as 'Tru-Oil' were used with a mixture of Boiled Linseed Oil, an indoor Polyurethane varnish and pure Turpentine. The test piece was quarter sawn Black Walnut - fairly opened grained - planed smooth but with no grain filler applied.
Each varnish coat was brushed on so that the surface was saturated. After drying for about 10 to 20 minutes any surplus varnish remaining on the surface was wiped off with a paper towel - wiping across the grain (important!).
After drying for 24 hours the surface was lightly sanded - in the direction of the grain (important!) - with a 'Norton' 3X 320 grit open grained paper. The varnish dust created fills the wood grain. The next coat is then applied - brushing across the grain (important!) - and is allowed to dry for 10 to 20 minutes before all surplus varnish is wiped off - again across the grain.
After drying for 24 hours this process is repeated and eventually results in the wood grain being completely filled - in this case after about six coats.

The final finish is smooth and hard, very easy to apply with good penetration, and with a semi gloss lustre bringing out the pattern of the wood grain to good effect.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:52 am 
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John Coloccia wrote:
There are boats that go to islands. They carry things like heavy equipment, cars and any other thing that are impractical to ship by air. it may take a while, but it will get there the same way that acetone and other chemicals get there. I spent many months in Taiwan as an engineer working in semiconductor fabs. Believe me that there are chemicals far nastier than Truoil that make their way there :)

Man, I miss the hamburgers at the Cosby Saloon....the tomato soup too. Some other things I won't mention...LOL.


Don't tell me the thing you miss the most about Taiwan is the women... because almost every white guys here say that and I am not interested in local women here, but that's all they got...

the trick for me is getting companies like LMI to deliver those by boat, but since its impossible for the average man to ship stuff by boat, I don't see how that helps.

I've had to experiment to have stuff that is similar to McFaddens (Seagrave) but to be honest with you, I really have no basis for comparison and the stuff I use might be close, but sometimes I just want to get the genuine article just to have something that "works".

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:26 am 
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If I remember correctly stewmac offered shipping by boat, awhile back. It took about 1 month for the package to arrive in Europe but it was very cheap (If the package was big and heavy).


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:47 am 
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rasmus wrote:
If I remember correctly stewmac offered shipping by boat, awhile back. It took about 1 month for the package to arrive in Europe but it was very cheap (If the package was big and heavy).


The issue was that USPS discontinued economy mail for whatever reason. It seems they don't want people shipping big and heavy package because the shipping cost with USPS increases exponentially with every ounce above 5 pounds.

Plus I've heard stuff is still sent by air even if its economy, it's just under a much lower priority so the shipment time is longer.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:49 am 
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I'm just trying to help you, Tai. Anyhow, these guys claim they ship worldwide, so maybe give them a try.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/360186204935#ht_1060wt_751


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