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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:52 am 
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Here is something to help start the new year off right.
The newest Luthier Tips du Jour instructional video is on Youtube. The topic is Tonewood. Subtitles are available in both English and Portuguese and you can translate them into any other language by using the CC option on Youtube.
As always, comments and discussion are welcome.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:07 pm 
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another interesting video, thanks Robbie, I've learned a lot from your videos.
I also agree that luthiers, like everyone else ,should be conscious of the environmental and social impact of what they do and try to reduce negative impacts.

Keep the videos coming

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:46 pm 
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That's a nice overview Robbie. I appreciate your discussion of environmental issues. One quibble: early on you mention that grain gets tighter near the center of the tree. Isn't the opposite usually the case?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:50 pm 
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Eric Reid wrote:
That's a nice overview Robbie. I appreciate your discussion of environmental issues. One quibble: early on you mention that grain gets tighter near the center of the tree. Isn't the opposite usually the case?



I believe I said the grain lines get closer together toward the center of the tree. If you look at a piece of soundboard material this is uaually the case. Of course there are always exceptions. Is this what you were referring to?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:28 pm 
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Well, we agree that there's variability, but I think you're mistaken about the trend. The narrower grain lines are nearly always on the outside of the tree. At least, that's how the trees around here grow, and that's the pattern on the guitars, and the top wood in my shop. Maybe one of the sawyers here can weigh in, and straighten me out.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:28 pm 
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Soundboards are usually joined with the tightest lines in the center of the soundboard. This would be true regardless of where the tight lines appear in the tree. Maybe that's what Robbie meant?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:05 pm 
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Annular rings? Or grain?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:12 am 
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Eric is correct. That's why you sometimes see sapwood in the middle of a guitar top.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:37 am 
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Liked some of the info on tonewood. The rest of the vid was a promo for LMI and the environmentalists, which I did not care about.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:40 pm 
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I don't know about American trees, but up in Canada, heartwood is in the centre of the tree and the sapwood is the outside layers. Maybe we could get Shane to weigh in on this.


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