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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:52 am 
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I'm considering building either a Martin 00 or Gibson L-00 shaped guitar (14 fret) and I'm wondering which shape sounds better. I played a Gibson L-00 at Guitar Center the other day and I didn't sound to bad..., but kinda thin. I would prefer more bottom end. I haven't tried a Martin 00... Any thoughts on the subject? (Should I give up on the smaller body? I like my OM guitars...)

BTW - I noticed that the Gibson L-00 at Guitar Center had very big braces... Whats up with that?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:39 am 
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I don't know if this will help but I've built both an L-00 and a Martin size 00-12 fret and I like the sound of the L-00
a bit better. I used my own bracing, not like Gibson or Martin and basically just used their body shape.
I really don't like the way Gibson braced the old L-00's. GAL. has a plan for a 37' L-00 and it shows how they
used a small wedge/filler at the X . Not a very good design in my opinion.
The L-00 has a larger lower bout which might add more bottom end bass. This size is very comfortable to play.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:04 am 
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Steve,

I have an L-OO that John Greven made for me and it has great bottom end, regardless of guitar size! It is lightly braced though.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:58 am 
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With all due respect, it isn't the shape of either that sounds good, it is how you build it.

In my estimation, the 12 fret version of either sounds better than the 14 fret version, but it is harder to get to that 14th fret. duh

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I have been consistently underwhelmed by the sound from the new L-00. Many builders get better sound out them than Gibson does. The big braces don't help.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:13 pm 
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I sell more 000 12 fretters than anything . I love the sound of them .

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 7:59 am 
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Pat Foster wrote:
I have been consistently underwhelmed by the sound from the new L-00. Many builders get better sound out them than Gibson does. The big braces don't help.

Pat


I agree... except I would go a bit further... I have been really underwhelmed by everything acoustic Gibson is currently offering... They basically sound like an American made knockoff of a $199 Chinese guitar... They need to work on getting back to why people love Old Gibson guitars...

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I routinely make the L-00 body size in both 24.75 scale 13 frets to the body and 25.5 scale 14 frets to the body. both are great.

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;I sell more 000 12 fretters than anything'

John,
Do you mean triple 0 or double 0?


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