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keep in mind that I have not used these (but have been reading up so I can some day), It is my understanding that 6000 will always burn in and that is what makes it ideal for instruments, but the 7000 will not once cured.

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Bryan Bear PMoMC

Take care of your feet, and your feet will take care of you.

It might be worth finding out if EM6000 and EM7000 are compatible. Do the bulk work with the EM7000, finish with coats of EM6000, and have the burn in capability for repair.

Alex

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That seems to be what's implied. If anyones a member already over on Target forum, maybe ask Jeff if he'll drop by over here to clarify some things .....I'm sure he'd do it with a happy market of EM6000 users already here.

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Dave
Milton, ON

That's what I was suggesting. It could be a good way to go if 6000 will burn into 7000 (before full cure). Who's gong to try it?

I'd still like to know if you can brush 7000. My shop is out of commission for a few months and It will be a while after that, that I have anything ready to put finish on. Maybe by then others will have some info.

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Bryan Bear PMoMC

Take care of your feet, and your feet will take care of you.

There is no reason you could not brush it. You will have to go a little thicker so you can sand off any brush marks. Be aware that there are issues for coat thickness in terms of the blue haze.

I use a balloon to plug the sound hole when I spray. I've checked this several times, but after 25 or so EM6000 coats, I can peel some off of the balloon and measure it. (search this forum for the numbers). I believe its about 0.3 thousanths per coat, 25 gets you to 7.5? Anyways, its enough for sanding and buffing and minimizing blue haze. In your case, paint the balloon as you go, check your film thickness. Blue haze is not a huge problem if you keep final film thickness under 5-6 thou. the darker the wood, the bigger the concern.

Mike

Stumac has 7000 for a brush. I asked them about witness lines when brushing and was told there aren't any.

Are you sure it's the 7000? I don;t see it, although I do see a brushing 'varnish'.

Thanks Mike, I know that people have successfully brushed 6000. Sounds like you don't see why 7000 would be different; I was concerned that the same properties that made it quick building might make it difficult to brush. . .

Hugh, I didn't see that StewMac says it can be brushed, I'm on mmy way over there right now.

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Bryan Bear PMoMC

Take care of your feet, and your feet will take care of you.

Im confused on terminology. I thought a witness line was what you got buy sanding through adhesion layers that we not 100% "melted in".

Others, I posted several of the questions over at Target on the musical instrument forum.

Mike

I emailed my Target supplier in Saskatoon, and he has received samples of EM7000, and hasn't yet done any compatability tests with EM6000. He thinks that EM6000 will likely be discontinued, so compatability might not be much of an issue in the long term. He said that he will be stocking it once it is available to him. Does anyone know what the shelf life of EM6000 is?

Alex

Just received another email that EM6000 will NOT be discontinued, and that he will post updated info on his web site http://www.woodessence.com/Default.aspx

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Sorry, that is brushing varnish.

I was just getting ready to come back and ask you that . . .

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Bryan Bear PMoMC

Take care of your feet, and your feet will take care of you.

Alex - here's a link to a thread in which I asked the same question...

http://www.luthiersforum.com/forum/view ... shelf+life

Just about to order some to try it out. Keep you posted on how it goes!

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http://www.targetcoatings.com/forum/vie ... php?t=2281

In reply to overcoating em7000 with em6000. Im not so sure this is a good idea. I think, either go with 6 or go with 7. Jeff mentions in another thread of mine that drop filling with 6000 can be used to repair dings in 7000. I am still unclear on the actual repair process for 7000. Getting info out of Jeff is like pulling teeth.

Mike

Do we really need to be so concerned with ding repair. I don't know anyone that has had there dings and scratches repaired. Most people just accept it as normal wear and character. I for one will probably not base my finish choices on repair.

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Hutch

Get the heck off the couch and go build a guitar!!!!

I agree. Totally. That is why I came to my conclusion. Willie Nelson doesn't care.

Use one or the other. I think I am going to try the EM7000.

Mike

Anyone started experementing yet???
Ive layed down 7 layers so far on a guitar. Started to sand, then will continue to spray.
During the sanding process ive strarted to see some blue haze. Strangely enough it seems to disappear when i wipe the surface with water, so hopefully this will dissappear once buffed.

All of you Em6000 users have you encountered the blue haze while sanding and spraying?

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