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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:51 pm 
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Apologies in advance for one of those topics where the answer will certainly be, "it depends" or too many variables. Regardless, I'm going to ask anyway.... beehive

Just built a 000 Pau Ferro - Sitka combo that has turned out pretty well, with two exceptions:

At this point (expect the sound to continue to evolve quite a bit, since it's only been strung up for about a week) the bass is quite full, and the mids are also quite nice, but the trebles (namely e string and b string) are quite thin and metallic.

Also, in general, strumming chords produces a sound which is quite "contained" although quite loud. The best way I can explain this is that the sound is perceived to be "in the box" - when I compare it to another guitar that I play (unfair comparison, I know - different woods mahogany, different size, Dread and 7 years old...) But, the sound is quite "forward" on the other - sound is perceived as outside the box.

So, notwithstanding the unscientific comparison, what have you found about variations in construction which affect or improve those characteristics? Thanks.


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A shallower box or a larger soundhole are 2 of the first things I would consider.

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You might want to check out this thread if you haven't seen it: http://luthiersforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10101&t=25425

Does "enveloping" describe what you're hearing?

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evanmelstad wrote:
You might want to check out this thread if you haven't seen it: http://luthiersforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10101&t=25425

Does "enveloping" describe what you're hearing?


Thanks, Evan. I now remember seeing this thread - that's exactly the kind of info I was looking for.....

Enveloping vs. projecting...... well, as the player, I do think that enveloping is the type of experience I'm referring to with the other guitar (okay, it's an old Taylor 110 in mahogany). The new one that I built - 000 Pau Ferro - not sure if it's projecting - I guess what I need to do is have a third party (read: my wife or kids) listen while I play both - and stand 10 feet away, 20 feet away, and give me their observations. Tough to tell whether it's projecting or not, when I'm playing it.

I'll keep you posted.

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Kent Chasson wrote:
A shallower box or a larger soundhole are 2 of the first things I would consider.


Got it. I wonder if there are other variables which come into play as well. The Dread that I'm comparing it to is actually deeper. Soundholes are equivalent.

One thought - may be overbuilt - with back and sides too massive. What do you suppose that effect would be?


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Todd -

Thanks - I think I go through this anxiety every time after I finish a guitar. I know that it will change a lot over a month, two months, three.... and they never seem to get worse, only better. That's good advice. I wont do anything at all to it for a long while.....And now I'm going to start step away from the computer and start playing the snot out of it :lol:


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