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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:20 am 
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It's a "000" for a small man. Just wondering if the 24.9 would be more comfortable for him, or, if the 25.4 has the advantage overall?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:50 am 
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I prefer the 24.9 .Having built and played both scales ,it is definately easier for me to play.I`m also small in stature, the 24.9 provides great reachability {is that a word?} for me.Also it`s my opinion that a 12 fret will give you a bigger sound because it pushes the bridge back towards the lower bout.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:58 am 
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Well for me I too prefer 24.9 or evend shorter scale for finger picking I also prefer a 1 13/16 neck for wider string spacing and .056-.013 sting gauge.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:14 am 
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I use 25" (635mm) or 25.6" (650mm) for my builds. I tend to prefer the short scale for the treble registers and the long one for the bass registers, especially in dropped tunings.
I feel no discomfort in either, it really depends on what the player will use the guitar for, and in what tuning(s).

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:33 am 
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I dont mean to sway the discussion, but I have a scale that says 25" PRS/Dobro, is this exactly 25"?


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:46 am 
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Talked to Steffan Grossman not long ago and he prefers the 14 fret long scale Know another known recording artist who also prefers the longer scale. I do the 25.5 scale, but have a 25.4 and 24.9 on the bench for guys who are finger style players at shows here in Branson. I guess just go with what a player orders, and if they like long or short scale, I like it too. I say that as I am not a player and to old to say even "yet", but taking lessons as I like to play and tired of hearing my 3 songs over and over.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:10 pm 
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24.9" 12 fret for standard tuning, 25.4" 14 fret for altered tunings.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:28 pm 
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I like the 25.4 scale. It let's you tune lower than D easily - I use medium gauge strings and get down to B once in while. I also like a wider nut for overall wider string spacing 1 13/16.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:33 pm 
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It kind of depends on what he plays. If he detunes down a lot a 25.4 might be a better choice. The strings are not as floppy.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:47 pm 
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I like 24.9" on my 12 fret parlors, (I have a hand injury), but mostly build 25.4" for 6 strings. I'm trying my first 26.2" on a 12 string to hopefully get it down to a B with .070-.014" strings.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:04 pm 
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25.4 modern for me - Gives me the reach that I need to do a wicked Smoke On The Water....


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:57 pm 
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Good old G major is a place to start.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:57 pm 
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I prefer 24.9 for both steel string and nylon. I use open G or taropatch tuning. I compensate for the shorter scale by using bluegrass (medium lows, light highs) on the steel string and high tension strings on the nylon. Works beautifully for my small fingers.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:31 pm 
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Howard Klepper wrote:
Good old G major is a place to start.


I lol'ed. pizza

Anyway, as to the scale lenght I prefer... I like the twenty five inchers, so I can push it up a little bit string gauge-wise.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:50 pm 
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Whoah! So much to learn here. Thank you.
Howard I thought you might use D#m7th. Just kidding.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:26 am 
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A 12 string B_B with 26.2 scale and 70s ... I am thinking that wil be pretty floppy .. what are the lower octave strings .. one octave or two ???? at one octave, the two low paired strings will be a 70 and what esle .. about a 40 ???? how can you play that ??? And what nut spacing ??? to get rid of a lot of adjacent string rattle .. it will need to be wide - 2 inches, maybe more ....

Go ahead and try it .... but I see some issues ...

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:24 am 
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Tony,
I just finished a similar guitar as Haans. Will post soon. This is the general setup that Leadbellyand Blind Willie McTell used.

Also the same guitar that Dellarte',Fraulini and Hauver makes.

I am using a .066 with a wound .026 (single octave) for the low C-works fine-sounds incredible.

There's a bunch of guys on youtube playing this style search "Stella 12 string".

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:57 am 
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OK .. I stand (sit at the computer) corrected ... [:Y:]

just seemed awefully low and not long enogh scale, knowing what I experence building bari's ... i have tried .066-.014 on the low B-b at 28.5, and its ok, but seems a little rubbery ... usually use that gauge at C/C#

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