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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:24 pm 
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I just saw that Woodworker's supply has a drill press planer on sale for $20,
if anyone is looking for one of these. An early stocking stuffer, perhaps?

http://woodworker.com/drill-press-planer-mssu-24760.asp?search=24760&searchmode=2?utm_source=promo&utm_medium=email&utm_content=24760&utm_campaign=IRW13A

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:36 pm 
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don't know if the Wagner or another like it, but like it and good tool. Lot of uses and can be used for thinning back and top plates, sides and bunch of other things.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:53 pm 
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It is a China nock-off of the Wagner Safty Planer. Notice the open cavities on the working end of the base. It will get chip and dust build up inside which will cause the assembly to be come slightly out of balance which will lead to chattering and if not blown out regularly could also cause push off. the wagner base is solid for these reasons.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:15 pm 
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Fully agree with Michael. I really didn't look at the picturre. The real thing is not much more and a great tool. I can attest though one has to pay attention as can get finger cut up pretty well if look away at street to wave at someone while feeding a back plate through it dang that hurt.


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http://www.luthiersforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10101&t=20004&p=280575&hilit=wagner+nelson#p280575
I bought one of these a year ago when Woodworker had them on sale. It's actually a smooth bottom Leightung as shown at the bottom of the above thread. Seems to work smooth as silk.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:43 pm 
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Nelson,

Are you saying you ordered the planer at the link above (that is currently on sale for $20) and when you received it, it was the one in the link you posted with the solid bottom? If so, that seems like a good deal.

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Do you want to buy the originally designed Wagner Safety Planner and support the good people of Tulsa, Oklahoma, or the ripped off tool made is some sweat shop in China?


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:17 am 
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Darryl Young wrote:
Nelson,

Are you saying you ordered the planer at the link above (that is currently on sale for $20) and when you received it, it was the one in the link you posted with the solid bottom? If so, that seems like a good deal.


Yes, that is correct. I believe that the one with the hollow body is for the radial arm saw application. Notice the hex recess which would be for the arbor bolt.
Also note that the cutters in it are reversed from the drill press model.
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Michael Dale Payne wrote:
It is a China nock-off of the Wagner Safty Planer. Notice the open cavities on the working end of the base. It will get chip and dust build up inside which will cause the assembly to be come slightly out of balance which will lead to chattering and if not blown out regularly could also cause push off. the wagner base is solid for these reasons.

I agree with Michael here. Stick with the wagner. I have one of these and a real wagner and these have a tendency to have some kickback i believe because of the non smoth bottom . The wagner doesn't do this. You have to question if these are fine why are they selling them at such a discount?


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npalen wrote:
Darryl Young wrote:
Nelson,

Are you saying you ordered the planer at the link above (that is currently on sale for $20) and when you received it, it was the one in the link you posted with the solid bottom? If so, that seems like a good deal.


Yes, that is correct. I believe that the one with the hollow body is for the radial arm saw application. Notice the hex recess which would be for the arbor bolt.
Also note that the cutters in it are reversed from the drill press model.
Nelson

I have one with a hollow bottom and its built for the drill press. I believe i bought it at woodcraft a few years back.


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Another option is the sanding disk that you can pick up at Gilbert Tuners (look under Tooling). A bit more expensive but they have a lot of uses and less likely to get tear out on wild grain.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:57 am 
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That is an interesting option, Don, and could perhaps be used in conjunction with the rotary planer to do the final surfacing.
Has anyone used one? Do they work well?
The Gilbert Tuner website is interesting in itself. Some really cool tuners!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:26 pm 
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npalen wrote:
That is an interesting option, Don, and could perhaps be used in conjunction with the rotary planer to do the final surfacing.
Has anyone used one? Do they work well?
The Gilbert Tuner website is interesting in itself. Some really cool tuners!
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Nelson, they do work very well as long as your drill press table has been set up correctly. Only real drawback is the need for a good vacuum as your making fine dust as compared to the Wagner planer. I bought 2 of these so I could have one with coarse paper and the other with fine paper. They do a good job but I still follow up with a random orbit sander. Also, these are heavy duty disks weighing in at just over 2 lbs.

I haven't tried the Gilbert tuners yet but plan to someday. They really do look sharp.

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Barry Daniels wrote:
Do you want to buy the originally designed Wagner Safety Planner and support the good people of Tulsa, Oklahoma, or the ripped off tool made is some sweat shop in China?


Hmmm....a very good point!


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:03 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:45 pm 
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Does anyone know where you get the wagner safe-t planar that is intended for use on a radial arm saw? I've looked around but I've only found the drill press model.

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I have one of the "knock off" ones that I bought from someone at another forum. It has the hollows in the base, and a nut that fits the blade shaft of the RA saw. It works great, but I could have also used my Drill press version on the opposite shaft with a chuck installed. Don't most RA saws have an arbor threaded for a 1/2" chuck on the opposite side of the motor?

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wait for a sale at woodcraft and you can pick up a Wagner for around $35.
America has already lost the best natural resorces, and skilled laborers to china, lets not give them all our money also.

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