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 Post subject: Re: Kerf Cutting Jig
PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:45 am 
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Indeed, this is a cool jig. And I'm sure it was fun to make. Nevertheless, I still think that there are simpler and faster ways to make linings.

I should be making some within the next two weeks. I'll take pictures of my setting and put them here.

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 Post subject: Re: Kerf Cutting Jig
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Kim wrote:
Truth is Daniel that many of us remain very grateful to you for nutting this out from Frank's site and sharing. Your efforts are what made my tutorial possible and I have had quite a bit of positive feedback about the jig since it was first hosted a few years back.

Cheers and thanks mate. [:Y:]

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Thanks Kim,
The only reason I ever posted about this thing was I thought it would be of use to someone that wanted to take the time to build it. As I said, I looked at this thing on Frets.com several times before I decided to build one. I kept thinking it looked a little strange and probably wouldn't work very well. But it does work very well, and I'm glad I took the time to make one.
Thank You Mr. Ford.


Alain, Don't take my post the wrong way. To ME this is the easiest way to make linings but I am looking forward to seeing your way of doing it. If I think that yours is the easiest, most accurate way then I hope you wont mind if I use your method.

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Well I printed it out and I'm going to use it somewhere in some form or I just might build one just for a conversation piece when someone comes to the shop along with my funky clothes pin bean pliers. :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Kerf Cutting Jig
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Todd Stock wrote:
Been posted before, but it is a nice little articulated jig for milling small numbers of linings. Other ways to do it, too.



Yeah, it's been posted before, and it is a nice little jig.

Todd... maybe you could post some photos of your variation of the K-Sled. As adept as you are in building jigs and tools I am sure that you have made improvements to it that may help someone in building their own if they wish to do so.

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 Post subject: Re: Kerf Cutting Jig
PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:57 pm 
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Ok, sorry it took longer than expected, but I finally got to make some linings. So I took pictures to show you guys how I make them, as I promised.

Just as a reference, the entire process took me about 15 min to make four linings, including setup time. You will notice that it would be possible to make 8 linings at once instead of just 4 as I show in the pictures.

This method can be used for both standard linings or reversed (such as in the pictures). But it will not work for triangular linings.

By the way, I took this concept out of the MIMF library, a while back.


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 Post subject: Re: Kerf Cutting Jig
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That's how I was planning on cutting mine also Alain. Except I was going to stack 3 blades with 1/4" spacers. Might I ask why not cut a wide single board and then rip the pieces from that. Mike Doolin has a jig for cutting the wide board into tianglular linings on the table saw. One pass cuts the angle and a second pass cut the width.
But I have to say that after seeing Keith MacKenzie's Motorized version of the auto feed bandsaw jig I'm going that route. It's really a cool jig and fast at 80 cuts a minute.


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 Post subject: Re: Kerf Cutting Jig
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Hi Chris.

Chris Paulick wrote:
Except I was going to stack 3 blades with 1/4" spacers.

Yes, you could do that to go even faster.

Chris Paulick wrote:
Might I ask why not cut a wide single board and then rip the pieces from that.

Kerfed linings are so fragile I prefer to work the blanks and kerf them at the very end of the process. Even so, I still break some.

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 Post subject: Re: Kerf Cutting Jig
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Alls I got to say is---It's a hoot to use!
Tickles my funny bone every time I need to make kerfing.
I cobbled one up out of scrap about a year ago from Kim's thread. I mean who doesn't like Rube Goldberg? Especially when it works as good as this does. No doubt I'm just simple minded, but I cut the kerfing for my first four guitars by hand with my shop made miter box, (hey, that probably contributed to my simple-mindedness), and this turns you into a smiling, kerfing machine!

And if you ever want to impress shop visitors, wow! Much better than a table saw sled.
We all need more fun in our lives, long live Rube Goldberg machines, whimsey and function!

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 Post subject: Re: Kerf Cutting Jig
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You are going to change the blade out to a thin kerf blade any way. :P


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 Post subject: Re: Kerf Cutting Jig
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Alain Moisan wrote:
Ok, sorry it took longer than expected, but I finally got to make some linings. So I took pictures to show you guys how I make them, as I promised.

Just as a reference, the entire process took me about 15 min to make four linings, including setup time. You will notice that it would be possible to make 8 linings at once instead of just 4 as I show in the pictures.

This method can be used for both standard linings or reversed (such as in the pictures). But it will not work for triangular linings.

By the way, I took this concept out of the MIMF library, a while back.


This is the way I first set up as well Alain but moved away in favour of the Ksled. I don't want or need a store room full of kerfed linings, I'll leave that to LMI. I would rather just have enough on hand for a few guitars, and maybe some extra for repairs. With this in mind I find the Ksled quicker to set up and to produce the required linings, simpler to use, and much more flexible in terms of indexing the kerf spacings to allow for variations in radii which means I can quickly cut for the job at hand. Also IMO the much thinner kerf of the bandsaw blade over that of the tablesaw means that you end up with more glue surface in close to the sides where it counts and extending the gluing surface is the point of the linings. End of the day I reckon the couple of hours and fist full of what-have-you it took to make the Ksled was time well and truly spent.

But then I guess everyone has their own way of doing things and as long as the way you do your thing doesn't hurt others, then it's all good. :)

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Kim wrote:
But then I guess everyone has their own way of doing things and as long as the way you do your thing doesn't hurt others, then it's all good. :)

Cheers

Kim


Cheers to that! [:Y:]

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 Post subject: Re: Kerf Cutting Jig
PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:11 pm 
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I have a Diablo 7 1/4" but I leave my 10" malamine cutting blade on the saw mostly. I can change a table saw blade a heck of a lot faster then a band saw blade. Usually the only set up is changing the insert. ;) :)


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