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 Post subject: Mineral deposits
PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:50 am 
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Has anyone found a way to eliminate the white mineral deposit in some rosewoods? I would rather not resort to stains, and there are sometimes WAY WAY to many (and too small) to mark them with a sharpie or pick them out with an exacto.

I am sure I am not the only person to experience this and just wondered if anyone found a magic bullet for dealing with this.

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 Post subject: Re: Mineral deposits
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Hi Brock,

I had this happen once with Mad Rose and tried to find a good solution to the problem. Wound up spending forever picking it all out. If I ever get another set with mineral deposits, I would send it back immediately. Sorry I couldn't be more help.

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 Post subject: Re: Mineral deposits
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Sometimes, the deposits are white sap, and come out with water. The standard factory treatment for minerals that I have heard about is muriatic acid, which I would rather not handle.


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 Post subject: Re: Mineral deposits
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sometimes you can hit it with a thin coat of MEK and they lessen, but might not totally be gone.

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 Post subject: Re: Mineral deposits
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It is a fact of life with wood. I have used mineral spirits , naphtha , acetone , water , sometimes it comes out , sometimes it doesn't . I use a dark filler and that covers it up
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 Post subject: Re: Mineral deposits
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Brock-

I know you don't want to use stains but this is the only page I know of that shows how they personally get rid of mineral stains in rosewood - http://www.alliedlutherie.com/makeover.htm

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 Post subject: Re: Mineral deposits
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Ive got a classical made with IRW opp grade B and S set and theres a fair bit of silica deposits happening. I pumice grain fill so the plan is to let bleed out of colour from the IRW to darken up the deposits. Will post up results when I get the job done.


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wbergman wrote:
Sometimes, the deposits are white sap, and come out with water. The standard factory treatment for minerals that I have heard about is muriatic acid, which I would rather not handle.


interesting, is that just wipe it on, wipe it off?

I have to admit that after taking a look at that allied page I am not so dead set against the stain, but on most of the sets I have they are so nice to start with I hate to cover up any of their natural beauty with stain. But they sure made that low end Indian Rosewood look good.

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 Post subject: Re: Mineral deposits
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The examples that were white sap took some elbow grease with a wet rag. I first realized that some of these white spots are sap when I had a teak board resawn for furnature. After leaning against the wall for weeks, sap started to swell out of some of the pores.


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 Post subject: Re: Mineral deposits
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Isn't muriatic acid just watered-down bleach?
I used to use the stuff years ago in my pool (until they came out with chlorine tabs).

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 Post subject: Re: Mineral deposits
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Dave Fifield wrote:
Isn't muriatic acid just watered-down bleach?
I used to use the stuff years ago in my pool (until they came out with chlorine tabs).

Dave F.


No. Muriatic(also muratic) acid is actually hydrocloric acid. My Dad is a (retired) building contractor. When I was a kid I used muratic acid to wash brick with. It's allot stronger than bleach. A few ounces in five gallons of water would eat the mortar stains right off a brick wall. I don't know if the same strength is available today, that was 30+ years ago. I'd guess it's pretty diluted to use in a pool. I'll ask my Dad if the same stuff is still available, and try some on some scrap. I've got some Rosewood with ALLOT of mineral stains I use for neck laminations. The muriatic acid I used years ago was pretty bad stuff, requiring rubber gloves, safety glasses ect.

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 Post subject: Re: Mineral deposits
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You can probably get muriatic acid in a hardware store.


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