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Chris Ensor
 Post subject: Removing a burst
PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:55 am 
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My first burst didn't turn out perfectly. Is there a way to remove it without having to sand it off? I sprayed three coats of em6000 under the burst. Any ideas?

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I've been there more than once Chris. Paint stripper works well for nitro. Not sure about 6000. I used electical tape and masked off about 1/8" into the top and then covered the rest of the guitar. Once you peel the tape off I sanded the thin strip around the edge back to wood. I've also stripped back and sides and left the top. It works well.

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done it a couple of times with em6000...best method I have found...ROS 100 and 150 grit followed by finer grits.... 1 hour worth of work ....strippers are nasty

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Sure no question about that Wes. The plus side is they don't change the top thickness. Not an issue if you have some to spare.
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I have been having luck with some of the newer water based strippers for my re-finish work on all types of factory finishes, including poly. They take longer than the old chemical stuff and you still need gloves but no fumes.

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....strippers are nasty

They're just hard working girls trying to make an honest living...


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I have used the soy-based stuff from LV with success removing EM6000 from a solid maple top.
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I ended up sanding the burst off, adding a couple new clear coats under it, and respraying the burst. Much happier this time around.

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Ken Jones wrote:
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They're just hard working girls trying to make an honest living...


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Trying to work their way through college. No harm in that. The clientele is usually much nastier.

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Chris,
Can you let us see how the burst came out?

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Attempt 1- lesson learned: going to fast will not yield a symmetric pattern (at least not for me)
Attempt 2- lesson learned: don't remove dust/particles from a still wet colored finish. It will ruin an otherwise great looking burst.
I just resanded and resparyed for attempt 3. It looks good so far, but we will see if I can get it all the way through finish without sanding through. I would really like to not mess this one up. I will post a photo at some point.

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I think every burst I have done has at least 3 tries. Over 5/8"maple. A little more forgiving....
Stick with it - 3 is the charm!
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Here it is:

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Looks good now!

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Yup. Looks good!

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