jfmckenna wrote:
truckjohn wrote:
What I saw on many of these bad hand builds is that the fretboards were being hand slotted by the builders.
1/16" is microscopic to the average person who doesn't do tool and die work.... But it's massive on a fretboard or bridge.... And seriously - how good are you really when using a ruler and a pencil to layout the frets? No! Stop! Buy a slotted fretboard from a company who cuts them on CNC or with a gang saw....
Every project guitar I have found locally for sale would have required a new fretboard and bridge not to mention a neck set. That means the price goes WAY WAY down... and I am sure it's why Dave and Hesh specifically require the guitar to already nominally be working BEFORE they will do setups. Because these don't need SETUP - they need expensive and time consuming repair work...
These didn't even pass the 1st gate to get to "Servicability" - they were still decorative wall hangings and furniture...
Thanks
I have to disagree. I have measured purchased and pre-slotted boards and they were off. I cut them by hand and don't have problems with intonation.
And I'll disagree with you JF. We have in our database precise measurements of the fret spacing of nearly 500 instruments some common, some iconic and very valuable in an over ten year study of fret spacing. Dave wrote software to drive the study as well that does of the math of the rule of 18 and other fret spacing methods used by the usual suspects over the years.
We have defined errors in spacing that are audible and noticeable and in our study we can visually back up what people like John are saying that they can hear. Our measurements are done with long calipers that have been calibrated and checked and the study will likely be published in the future, Dave just needs to finish it up and it's been asked for by one of the publications.
We see the very worst fret spacing of all on small Luthier built instruments with fret spacing errors that create all manner of issues for the players of which some players have even brought us the guitar wondering if their frets were off.
The very best and most precise fret boards we have ever measured were the CNC boards that I used by Watkins and later on after I was no longer building the CNC boards by Birko that our business has used for repair work. On both of these examples the error rate was nearly nonexistent. Andy's boards are available right now and are IME the most precise fret spaced and generally well made fret boards available today. So much so that if I were building again I would be using Andy's boards and feel fortunate to have them.