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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:38 am 
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I just got pricing on 90º Angle Step Drill Bits for drilling the headstock tuner holes like this one;

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I was just going to order one for myself, but I thought I would get pricing for multiples and see if you all would want any. They are made in China and will arrive 15-20 days after payment.

Here is the pricing for the bits, Stewart MacDonald wants $82 for one. I am still waiting on the shipping costs...;

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D1: 7.8mm-diameter (.307")
D2: 9.9mm-diameter (.390")
L: 80mm (3.149")
L1: 18mm (.708")
L2: 62mm (2.440")
L3: 27mm (1.063")



If the Board owner wants to do this I am fine with it, in fact I would prefer it if anyone wants to contact them.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:45 pm 
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Possibly interested. Are they the same manufacturer?


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James Orr wrote:
Possibly interested. Are they the same manufacturer?


I have no idea... These are being made in China. I don't know where StewMac gets theirs. But for the price difference you just about can not go wrong.

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[Edit: Interest withdrawn. I don't use those types of tuners.]

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What tuners are these for?


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It is the same as the StewMac drill bit...

http://www.stewmac.com/Luthier_Tools/Ty ... l_Bit.html

Here is the description from the StewMac web site...


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Count me in on a pair of the high speed steel units.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 4:29 pm 
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I have PM'd Lance K. to see if the Board would like to take over the Group Buy, I have never managed one before etc...

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Definitely interested.

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Who did the last Group Buy here on the Forum ?

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Yes I would go for a carbide bit.



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Yes I would go for a carbide bit.



Okay I PM'd and emailed Lance K. to see if the board will sponsor the Group Buy.

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A Group Buy is a "labor of love". Lot of work. Lot of responsibility. IMHO, if you want this, you should do this. I don't see a huge advantage in the cost reduction (25 vs 1). Of course $20 is better than $82. Everybody that wants one says so. When you get to 25 you ask for checks. Be aware of problems with shipping to foreign countries (exchange rates etc). I'd limit it to lower 48.

Oh, and yes, I will take one. :) Good luck.

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Now that I realize the bit is for those enclosed tuners, I'm no longer interested.

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Mike O'Melia wrote:
A Group Buy is a "labor of love". Lot of work. Lot of responsibility. IMHO, if you want this, you should do this. I don't see a huge advantage in the cost reduction (25 vs 1). Of course $20 is better than $82. Everybody that wants one says so. When you get to 25 you ask for checks. Be aware of problems with shipping to foreign countries (exchange rates etc). I'd limit it to lower 48.

Oh, and yes, I will take one. :) Good luck.

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Edit: My advice is based in my doing group buys for AST Shell (Zip Flex).


Well that is just it... I don't have the mind set to tackle this right now... I am on some pretty heavy duty meds and I have never done it before to boot.

I emailed and PM'd Lance K. about it, and he has not replied so I guess that is a big fat No. Anyone else willing to organize it? I have done all of the research and found the manufacturer and gotten the prices...Will forward all email I have pertaining to it...

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I mean for a buck why don't you just tell everyone where to get them and let them do it on their own?

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AR15DCM wrote:
Mike O'Melia wrote:
I have done all of the research and found the manufacturer and gotten the prices...


Kindly ignore my PM then.


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I mean for a buck why don't you just tell everyone where to get them and let them do it on their own?


If you all want to pay that much sure I will be happy to. The price will go way up.


BIT COST
HSS 1 $10.45
HSS 10 $9.94
HSS 25 $9.08
Carbide 1 $21.93
Carbide 10 $21.07
Carbide 25 $19.87

FREIGHT COST
HSS 1 $23.13
HSS 10 $29.12
HSS 25 $40.26
Carbide 1 $23.13
Carbide 10 $35.12
Carbide 25 $51.39



Contact Helen Wang: helenwang@cqsxgj.com
Just let her know Dean Miller had been working with her on the pricing/shipping etc...

The dimensions were modified from what was posted earlier in the thread, these should be correct.

D1: 7.8mm
D2: 9.9mm
L1: 10mm
L2: 84mm
L3: 33mm


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I have done all of the research and found the manufacturer and gotten the prices...


Kindly ignore my PM then.


I am completely confused as to how I got "quoted" that way. Those are not my words. Just so it is clear, I'm gonna craw daddy out of this thread.


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Well why don't you ask a question instead of being suspicious and quite frankly, a little accusatory ?

If you want a Carbide drill bit and 25 people join in the group buy it works like this simple math....

To buy a Carbide bit quantity of 25, each bit is $19.87 each
To ship 25 Carbide bits is $51.39. If you have 25 people buying bits that shiping cost is spread across them at $2.05 shipping each.

$19.87 per bit
$ 2.05 Shipping
$21.92 Total Cost to U.S.
+ what another $2 to your house ?

Did I take everything into account ? Maybe not. I asked for someone who has done this before to help out. NO ONE offered to help!!!!

Your appreciation for what I have tried to do really just shows me that my time has really been wasted on a few folks that really are just in it for themselves and don't think about anything else but.

I can assure you that I will never bother to do something gratis for this board again. Thanks for nothing.

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And, before I get accused of something again... Here is the latest email I received from Helen Wang after I had changed the dimensions of the drill bit as was noted in the thread.

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printer2 wrote:
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I have done all of the research and found the manufacturer and gotten the prices...


Kindly ignore my PM then.



I never received a PM from you.

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Kindly ignore my PM then.



I never received a PM from you.


That is odd, well then then ignore ignoring me. idunno


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