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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:56 pm 
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After reading all this, I have decided to stop wearing gloves if I get close to anything spinning. However, it has been my goal to make more gigs, fixtures, tables etc, to keep my hands farther away from danger anyways.

They sure are nice for handling rough wood and when its cold though.

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I'll have to continue to side with the no-gloves camp, but I do understand that there are personal preferences involved. I think for me, the acts of taking off the ring, taking off the watch, rolling up the sleeves may be related more to mental preparation and focusing than it is to strict adherence to some safety standard, but I'm not convinced it isn't the right safety standard too.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:53 pm 
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Gloves or not, to me the more important thing is recognizing whether your concentration is there before committing yourself to the task.
Weren't prepared for how the router tried to leap out of your hand when you turned it on? Walk away and think about why that happened.
Workpieces seem to just not be lined up or balanced right on the table saw table? Back up and figure out what is wrong. All of these critters will eat you if they get the chance. Don't come at them casually.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:23 pm 
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Alex Kleon wrote:
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People who can't wrap their heads around the idea that people still make guitars: People who have forgotten that it is only for the blink of an eye that humans have made things on factory lines. People who say, "yeah, well, you didn't make the strings or tuners did you". People who automatically assume I put together some kind of "Lego build yourself a guitar" kit.


I heard a great new one today! An old neighbour popped over and I showed him a guitar I made. He asked me what I was doing with myself these days and I told him my job and that I'm building guitars as a hobby... My dad had been playing the guitar I made for him so it was out on the sofa and I passed it to the guy saying, "I made this one for my dad".... He asked... Wait for it... "Wow, who do you get to do the woodwork for you?" :shock: Seriously.

Thanks everyone, I'm here all week!



I just had to post this! :lol:


You probably don't even wind your own &@?%ing strings either, do you, Nick? laughing6-hehe laughing6-hehe laughing6-hehe

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I know I'm pretty much the only having this discussion but I thought of another one: An acquaintance looked at the guitar I made for my dad and pointed straight to the saddle, saying, "didn't get that straight, did you"! :lol: Could anyone be so foolish as to think I could make a guitar but I could slant a saddle that much if my intention was to make it straight?!?!? And she said it as if I hadn't noticed that it was slanted! (No, I definitely wasn't missing some humour there, I had to explain it all to her.)

Ok, as you were, people! :)



Oh, and I highly recommend wearing gloves when using a silicone heating blanket ;)


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People who want me to make them a custom Tele from local Texas trees (cool).
Oh yeah, it should cost less than a real Tele because they can get one at Guitar center for $200.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:57 pm 
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People who want me to make them a custom Tele from local Texas trees (cool).
Oh yeah, it should cost less than a real Tele because they can get one at Guitar center for $200.


At least in Texas you're allowed the right weapon to clear them off your property ASAP! :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 7:24 pm 
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Just to try to make this glove discussion even more useful...

Does anyone think fingerless gloves are a safer option? It can get pretty chilly in my garage sometimes.


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Nick Royle wrote:
Just to try to make this glove discussion even more useful...

Does anyone think fingerless gloves are a safer option? It can get pretty chilly in my garage sometimes.


I use fingerless compression gloves when hand planing and hand sanding to help reduce the wear on my hands. FYI, it never really gets chilly in Tucson!



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:01 pm 
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Beth Mayer wrote:
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Just to try to make this glove discussion even more useful...

Does anyone think fingerless gloves are a safer option? It can get pretty chilly in my garage sometimes.


I use fingerless compression gloves when hand planing and hand sanding to help reduce the wear on my hands. FYI, it never really gets chilly in Tucson!



:lol: I can imagine not! We've had one of our heatwaves for the last few days... Nearly 90f!!! ;)

Great use of fingerless gloves! I shall do the same from now for sure. Thanks, Beth!


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the only time I wear gloves is when applying a dye. That stuff don't wash out.
I think wearing gloves close to cutting machines is risky. Easier to watch my fingers than part of a glove I may not see.
At least I've been lucky so far.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:42 pm 
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Sir Robin Knox-Johnston won't allow anyone on his boats (yachts?) wear gloves lest they get caught in ropes!
I'm not a sailor but I mentioned this discussion to a friend who is and ^that is what he said.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:30 pm 
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Well guys were talking very thin gloves that become a part of your hand. I wear three rings under my gloves. Operate all my tools. If your talented with your hands you should be able to use a thin pair of gloves. For those of you who have never done so to be perfectly honest your only seeing half the situation. Kinda like operating your table saw with one eye closed. If you've never tried it then in all honesty you cannot speak intelligently about the subject. Sorry if those words are harsh but they are truthful words . Don't mean to offend anyone. But if you cannot see the truth when it is right in front of you sorry. But if you've never tried it then you do not know what you are talking about. Lol holy cow guys it's a no brainer.


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I wasn't giving you a hard time, Lonnie. Promise. I don't think anyone was actually.
Just some strong feeling when it comes to safety and our most useful built in tools.
To each their own. dude! :)


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I wear a shirt while working. Don't want my chest hair getting caught in the drill press. Just thought I'd clear that up.

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Doug Balzer wrote:
I wear a shirt while working. Don't want my chest hair getting caught in the drill press. Just thought I'd clear that up.

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I braid mine for the same reason :)
They call me the chest rasta.


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I know guys believe me when I say this isn't my first encounter. Been using them for the last thirty years. Wouldn't leave home without them . To be honest it's what you can get used to. If your mind tells you it's unsafe then for Gods sake don't. I have my own way of doing it. The gloves ain't so much for operating power tools. I do use them though. They're for the sharp,scratchy, rough,splintery,itchy,biting.crushing fingers between two pieces of wood you know all the things we go through doing this endeavor.


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If you have long hair secure it with scrunchies or whatever... machines like drill press can catch them and draw your head in...

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After a week of this, I'm still trying to figure out why you would need gloves?

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Splinters rough wood sharp things etc.


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"After a week of this, I'm still trying to figure out why you would need gloves?"

When handling sheet goods (especially mcp) or rough cutting undressed lumber the thin grippy gloves can be of some benefit. If you are doing something where your hands are well away from the cutters they are less of a hazard. As with other "always and never" situations there seems to be exceptions to the rule. Although gloves can prevent minor injuries they can also cause major ones.


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I just watched the video of the Martin tour. They were showing a pro sawing on a super fast bandsaw. Guess what he was using gloves exactly like mine. He cuts neck blanks 8 hrs a day. Wearing gloves hmm! Smart fella. :0)


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Gloves are fine, except for around rotating equipment.


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I don't wear gloves but would advise a bit more working distance to the sharp or abrasive moving parts if getting gloves pulled in is a fear. There are very few reasons to get hands in harms way and I personally avoid it. Tim


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Bindings freak me out sometimes. I used to route an incorrect channel, meaning I take a router and just route a channel that registers off the top, creating an inaccurate channel, but for whatever reason the binding fits fairly well. Ever since I gotten a binding jig and routed a correct channel I feel like I have to fight the binding. It would often take a huge amount of force to seat it, and it often doesn't want to seat at all!

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:22 am 
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Gloves are fine as long as you don't stick your hand into a blade. If you stick your hand into a blade not having gloves on aren't going to help you. If you noticed the guy in the video kept his hands a long ways away from the blade good idea at all times. Today's gloves are not yesterday's. They are safe to wear as they are just another layer of skin to your hands. They have nothing hanging or dangling. Nothing to get caught in anything. I don't have to explain this to anyone. The video is self explanatory. Safety is very important. The rules were made up seventy years ago. Things have changed since then. That's all I'm saying. Today's gloves are not your grandfathers gloves. Those rules were made in your grandfathers time. I was a carpenter for many years. Knew tons of old guys missing parts of a finger etc. Common sense says you don't use a glove that has a strap dangling or a great big floppy glove. That same common sense says it's ok to use form fit fitting gloves as the fella wore in the video. It's just a no no to those of you who have never worn the gloves. If you have not then you are not speaking from a position of knowledge but one of supposition. Nothing to be gained by going any further with this. I know my hands are as safe as anyone's. Moments of stupidity causes a person to stick his hand into a spinning blade. No spinning blade will grab these thin gloves as there's nothing for it to grab. Just another thin layer of skin. If that's what you're basing it on then check them out nothing to grab.


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