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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 5:13 am 
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theguitarwhisperer wrote:
That's fine. Since you brought the whole thing up though I'm sure a number of are curious.

I've already suggested that my own technique and combination of materials lie behind my results. My point in "bringing the whole thing up" was to simply share my own experience, not to argue about it. I've found a way forward, and that is a positive outcome.

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I'm wondering if you sanded back to bare wood prior to finishing after you filled with the epoxy, either one.

My application technique was, and still is, consistent with the instructions posted on the LMI website and as recommended by others here.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:37 am 
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Sanding back to bare wood or leaving a thin coat of epoxy on the entire surface to pop figure should have no bearing on how well the pores are filled provided that in the sanding back process the epoxy was not removed from the pores.

This is also why I like to do the first coat of epoxy pretty thin, meaning the viscosity of the epoxy is out-of-the-box thin with no thickeners. My belief, for now.... is that the thin coat wets the bottom of the pores, it won't be enough to fill them mind you but once the bottom surfaces of the pores are coated with epoxy subsequent coats seem to stay put and adhere better making it more difficult to sand the epoxy out of the pores.

Sorry this happened to you Tim, IMHO it sounds as if you did all the right things.

The only thing that I can add at the moment is that early on for me I at times was mistaken when I thought I had a complete fill and then the finishing process reveled that my fill was not complete. I've since started wearing glasses...&^%$^*()(*^%##%&*^ and hate every minute of it.... gaah :D


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:46 pm 
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Tim Mullin wrote:
theguitarwhisperer wrote:
That's fine. Since you brought the whole thing up though I'm sure a number of are curious.

I've already suggested that my own technique and combination of materials lie behind my results. My point in "bringing the whole thing up" was to simply share my own experience, not to argue about it. I've found a way forward, and that is a positive outcome.

theguitarwhisperer wrote:
I'm wondering if you sanded back to bare wood prior to finishing after you filled with the epoxy, either one.

My application technique was, and still is, consistent with the instructions posted on the LMI website and as recommended by others here.


Geez, that's all I was asking, what your experience was, which includes what you did!

You just don't seem very forthcoming about what you did.

I was simply enquiring about what you did, which is consistent with what we would expect forum people to do when a subject is posted declaring the intent to share experience.

But fine, don't tell me. I was just making conversation.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:50 pm 
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Hesh wrote:
Sanding back to bare wood or leaving a thin coat of epoxy on the entire surface to pop figure should have no bearing on how well the pores are filled provided that in the sanding back process the epoxy was not removed from the pores.

This is also why I like to do the first coat of epoxy pretty thin, meaning the viscosity of the epoxy is out-of-the-box thin with no thickeners. My belief, for now.... is that the thin coat wets the bottom of the pores, it won't be enough to fill them mind you but once the bottom surfaces of the pores are coated with epoxy subsequent coats seem to stay put and adhere better making it more difficult to sand the epoxy out of the pores.



Makes sense! If I ever use these types of fillers that'swhat I'll do!

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