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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 6:37 pm 
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Here is the latest Luthier Tips du Jour video. In this video I invite Trevor Gore to answer a viewer's question about the difference between using 3 or 4 back braces.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 10:54 pm 
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You can absolutely get a live back with four braces, been doing it since the books came out.


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I was shivering just looking at that picture of Antarctica.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2025 3:16 am 
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meddlingfool wrote:
You can absolutely get a live back with four braces, been doing it since the books came out.


But on classical guitars? That was Stephanie's question. :-)

Can be done, but you need pretty skinny braces. Fleta was just about the only "big name" classical luthier to use 4 back braces, specifically, it seems, to make non-live backs on his guitars. Fleta chose to use a strong diagonal dipole, obtained with asymmetric top bracing, to extend the response in the T(1,1)3 frequency area.

So I think I got the right answer out, even though, by the look of the video, I hadn't slept for a week (jet lag!!)

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2025 1:19 pm 
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With four back braces I make the lower two low and wide, as in Martins. You get the structural strength you need with more mass and not so much added stiffness.


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