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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:25 pm 
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Looking for advice on how to pore fill and dye a light colored wood?

If I seal it, it can’t be dyed. If I dye it, I can’t sand it back after sealing and pore filling.

Never run into this before.

I look forward to suggestions.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:45 am 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:07 am 
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I very long time ago, I made myself a Strat with Alder. I dyed the top with black which penetrated into the grain lines. I fully sanded back and THEN I pore filled with epoxy. On top of that I used tinted nitro. The result was deep alder grain showing through a translucent red finish.

Pretty terrible low light photo, but you get the idea. Hope that helps.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:04 am 
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If you dye it, then seal and porefill, should you not be able to carefully scrape if with a razor with the corners rounded?


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:59 am 
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With many finishes you can dye the wood then "self seal" - use the finish itself to seal the wood. It takes more finish to fill the grain and build the finish. If you Want to pore fill first - use a traditional filler that will take stain.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:17 pm 
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Well, I've done a few guitars, white oak light enough?
Pore fill with Stew Mac filler (you might have to dye the filler), sand off, dye, finish.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:44 pm 
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Haans,
That is essentially what I did on scrap today and it turned out great.
Experimented with crystallac (pore filler) dyed dark brn.
Sanded back, repeated.
Mixed amber and red transtint cut with DA.
Went over with brown transtint then sealed with shellac.

This is a piece of light colored Black Acacia that now looks like some of the nicest (non-flamed) Koa I have ever seen.
(Sure wish I could upload a photo straight from my ipad but files are too big)


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:12 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:59 am 
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Glad it worked out for you Dave...


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