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 Post subject: fret end beveling
PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:16 pm 
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Does anyone here find the Stewmac tool for beveling fret ends necessary? I use a large file to bevel the fret ends but the problem is the file is awkward to handle, and if I am not careful I can damage the guitar. I want to cut the file and mount it in a wooden jig but the problem is, I do not have a tablesaw so I can't really make the proper angled cut... only have a bandsaw.

Also I found the file isn't flat, and I suspect most files aren't flat unless they're precision ground flat and then toothed... so what works?? The Stewmac version is almost 50 dollars...

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 Post subject: Re: fret end beveling
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Does anyone here find the Stewmac tool for beveling fret ends necessary? I use a large file to bevel the fret ends but the problem is the file is awkward to handle, and if I am not careful I can damage the guitar. I want to cut the file and mount it in a wooden jig but the problem is, I do not have a tablesaw so I can't really make the proper angled cut... only have a bandsaw.

Also I found the file isn't flat, and I suspect most files aren't flat unless they're precision ground flat and then toothed... so what works?? The Stewmac version is almost 50 dollars...


I use the StewMac fret beveler whenever I do fret work, precisely because using a long file to perform that job is awkward - especially on set necked instruments.

As for files.... they do sometimes warp in the heat treating process, despite starting out flat. All you can do is check them before you buy them.

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 Post subject: Re: fret end beveling
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Tai Fu wrote:
I want to cut the file and mount it in a wooden jig but the problem is, I do not have a tablesaw so I can't really make the proper angled cut... only have a bandsaw.



Why can't you cut the proper angle? Handsaw is pretty quick and easy. If you need a guide to get the proper angle by hand then you could plane the angle onto the edge of a scrap piece to use as a guide.
Or you could use your band saw. Just cut the piece of wood all the way through at your desired angle then glue in a partial-depth spacer that is the same thickness as your file.


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 Post subject: Re: fret end beveling
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Tai Fu wrote:
I want to cut the file and mount it in a wooden jig but the problem is, I do not have a tablesaw so I can't really make the proper angled cut... only have a bandsaw.



Why can't you cut the proper angle? Handsaw is pretty quick and easy. If you need a guide to get the proper angle by hand then you could plane the angle onto the edge of a scrap piece to use as a guide.
Or you could use your band saw. Just cut the piece of wood all the way through at your desired angle then glue in a partial-depth spacer that is the same thickness as your file.

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That's the way I did mine, on the bandsaw - 6 inch Faithfull brand file (check reasonably flat before you buy), knock off the tang, grind the rough bit, epoxy.

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 Post subject: Re: fret end beveling
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How do I cut a file? Hacksaws won't touch them...

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 Post subject: Re: fret end beveling
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How do I cut a file? Hacksaws won't touch them...


Abrasive cut-off wheel. Do you have a Dremel kit?

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 Post subject: Re: fret end beveling
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I use a chop-saw with a friction cut-off wheel. You can get an abrasive blade for a normal skil-saw.

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 Post subject: Re: fret end beveling
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I have a dremel type tool and cut off wheel, but I am afraid of using them on a file... it's a little too big for that. I might see to go and see if there's anyone with abrasive chop saws that I can borrow for a few minutes...

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Tai Fu wrote:
I have a dremel type tool and cut off wheel, but I am afraid of using them on a file... it's a little too big for that. I might see to go and see if there's anyone with abrasive chop saws that I can borrow for a few minutes...


It would be a lot easier to take the file to the chop saw! :)

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 Post subject: Re: fret end beveling
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All you have to do is score the file then put it in a vise and hit it with a hammer. It will snap along the scored line. I use a grinder to score a line.


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 Post subject: Re: fret end beveling
PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:32 am 
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An old sanding belt on the belt sander and me fret ends are beveled in under 60 seconds...way faster and cheaper than any file...even if its a StewMac file. laughing6-hehe

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 Post subject: Re: fret end beveling
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What do you do when you are over the body? it gets really easy to damage the body when you need to dress the end there...

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 Post subject: Re: fret end beveling
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I use the StewMac file as well but have found that metal filings can get between the plastic block and frets and ding up the tops. I usually tape off the tops except for the edges so the block rides on the tape to prevent that.

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