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 Post subject: Fiber Veneer
PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:44 pm 
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So this time I decided to use a piece of fiber veneer on the headstock; glued it on, inlayed my logo, and sanded the inlay flat using 220, 320 and 400 paper. Noticed that the veneer looked a little blotchy so continued sanding with 400...still blotchy. Called LMI and asked about the blotchy surface and was told that the stuff shouldn't be sanded since it is a paper product. Interesting conversation since their website describes the veneer by saying: "Fiber is a wood/paper product that sands, scrapes, and finishes well".
I crossed my fingers and hit it with a coat of nitro... no suprise, still blotchy.

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 Post subject: Re: Fiber Veneer
PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:33 pm 
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I've used it, but only on edge, for bindings. I haven't tried a finish on it yet, but with edge sections I don't anticipate a problem. Personally, I would use wood over this stuff for a head stock veneer, especially after your issues.

So does the blotchy look bad? What color did you use? If black, you can very likely use a dye to even it all out.

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 Post subject: Re: Fiber Veneer
PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:28 am 
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This stuff is meant primarily for purflings - you do not want to use it for a "surface" veneer. It does sand, scrape, and finish well but that doesn't mean it can be used just like wood. It sands much more evenly from the sides than it will from the top. In other words, it is a good product but you are using it for the wrong application. You need to remove it and use real wood instead for the headstock overlay. Best of Luck.


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 Post subject: Re: Fiber Veneer
PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:39 pm 
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Thanks guys!

Phil, I did try some black dye over the veneer, it helped but I still wasn't satisfied with the look. I was hoping to avoid the black lacquer and subsequent scraping of inlay and binding but that's now the plan.


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 Post subject: Re: Fiber Veneer
PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:36 pm 
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Have you tried CA thin, maybe with a little black transtint? I have not tried that, but would. I have been desparate on occasion.

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 Post subject: Re: Fiber Veneer
PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:13 pm 
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Danny

The LMI guy I talked to suggested CA also; but now I've already shot it with black nitro. PITA since I had to scrape the logo and binding. It looks good now but I've learned what to expect if I ever do it again.

Rob


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 Post subject: Re: Fiber Veneer
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I often use these for armrest bevel overlays and have run into the same issue. The thinner stuff is no problem (.010 I believe) but thicker versions look like .010 thicknesses glued together, with the glue line showing like a slightly lighter finish witness line. Paint it or dye it and you should be fine.


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