Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Sat Aug 16, 2025 6:07 am


All times are UTC - 5 hours


Forum rules


Be nice, no cussin and enjoy!




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 5 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:29 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:44 am
Posts: 5587
First name: colin
Last Name: north
Country: Scotland.
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
My first Antes Parlour build, and I'd like to use the Martin 24.9" scale instead of 24.5" as per plan, moving the bridge back 0.2"
The plan shows the bridge just overlapping the X braces at the bridge's front tips.
Do I -
1) Keep the same bracing pattern and just widen the bridge.
2) Move the bracing back 0.2 inches.
3) Close up the angle of the X braces so the standard bridge width overlaps the X braces.
4) Do something else?
Any other considerations? (I know compensation will change and the plan is over braced)

_________________
The name catgut is confusing. There are two explanations for the mix up.

Catgut is an abbreviation of the word cattle gut. Gut strings are made from sheep or goat intestines, in the past even from horse, mule or donkey intestines.

Otherwise it could be from the word kitgut or kitstring. Kit meant fiddle, not kitten.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:40 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:36 am
Posts: 7475
Location: Southeast US
City: Lenoir City
State: TN
Zip/Postal Code: 37772
Country: US
Focus: Repair
Colin North wrote:
My first Antes Parlour build, and I'd like to use the Martin 24.9" scale instead of 24.5" as per plan, moving the bridge back 0.2"
The plan shows the bridge just overlapping the X braces at the bridge's front tips.
Do I -
1) Keep the same bracing pattern and just widen the bridge.
2) Move the bracing back 0.2 inches.
3) Close up the angle of the X braces so the standard bridge width overlaps the X braces.
4) Do something else?
Any other considerations? (I know compensation will change and the plan is over braced)


Here's one I'm just putting finish on, it's a 12 fret 24.9" scale base on the Antes Parlour plan although I traced an 0-16NY for the shape. I think I just moved the bridge plate - I built the box 3 years ago and never completed the neck till recently. Yes I know about the tone bar ;)

Attachment:
DSCF0654.JPG


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

_________________
Steve Smith
"Music is what feelings sound like"


Last edited by SteveSmith on Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:56 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:54 am 
Offline
Mahogany
Mahogany

Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:49 pm
Posts: 73
First name: Tom
Last Name: Phillips
City: Arcata
State: CA
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
I built an Antes with a 24.9 scale as well. Sounds wonderful, but I have more bridge rotation than I'd like. In retrospect, I think eany one of these options: moving the x back, leaving the top thicker (say .130 for the redwood I used), closing the x a little, or using tapered braces instead of scalloped, would have worked fine. Unfortunately, I made the wrong choice on all of those....still a wonderful guitar, just a little peeved it's not perfect. If I were to to it again, I would close the x angle slightly and use unscalloped bracing to better support the area in front of the bridge.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:27 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:21 pm
Posts: 3446
Location: Alexandria MN
I've built 6 or 7 at 24.9. The oldest is about 6 years out. X brace is 9.1" from the top of the upper bout to the top of the X. Angle 90 degrees. 12.1" to the front edge of the bridge plate. I lengthened the bridge to about 6 3/4" to get the ends over the X. The oldest one has a slight bulge behind the bridge that has been stable for several years. Conventional scalloping. They sound great. Be sure to get the lower face brace on the correct side of the X! The projection of the plans is from the top.

Here are some pictures.

http://kennedyguitars.com/size-2/

And a build thread for one.

http://s252.photobucket.com/user/terken ... all&page=1

_________________
It's not what you don't know that hurts you, it's what you do know that's wrong.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 5 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 27 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com