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Had an opportunity to draw some letters for Roberto Cipriano. I'm grateful for his trust and excited about the results so I thought I'd share them with you.

Roberto was looking for a fairly traditionally styled version of his last name. The context would be a squared headstock like a Martin or Collings. I started by sketching out half a dozen different ideas very quickly to establish a direction.



I didn't look at anything for reference, but had the following models in mind:
1. My own design
2. Gibson-esque
3. Guild-esque
4. My own design
5. The Gibson-esque (The Flatiron, The Kentucky etc)
6. Lowden-esque
7. My own design

Roberto liked 2, 3 and 5 but we settled on 5 as the way forward.
With the next revision I would take the design digital, refine it, clean it up and optimize for inlay.



I photoshopped a headstock to help visualize. When reversed the feeling of a logo can be much different.

Roberto noticed I strayed too far from the original concept and wanted something closer to a cleaned up version of sketch #5 I'd made. He aslo decided to go with a decal instead of inlay, changing the constraints a bit.

Last think we noticed is the "ip" combination started to look like a "y" when it's dot was being defined by the ball terminal on the T. So after some final adjustments and general polish, this is the final design:



It was fantastic to collaborate with Roberto (it doesn't hurt that he has a classy looking last name)! Very much looking forward to seeing non-photoshopped results in the forums one of these days.

well, i for one am not seeing any graphics/photos.
anyone else....?

Nope

Ugh. Obviously I can see them. Let me host the images elsewhere and see what happens.
Did that fix it?

10-4, issue fixed

Fixed one problem and caused another...

Originally, the first I was dotted by the above T.
Moving over "the" has caused the second i in cipriano to be dotless....doesn't look right to me.
if you're concerned about the 'y' appearance, cut the line between the i and the p...
The post you showed with the single headstock was brilliant, just sever the p from the i as the r is severed from the p....

my thoughts...

If you are looking for comments, I would eliminate the "The".

Chuck

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Also the underscored p makes it look a lot like Cyrano (de bergerac)

I'm still picking up the unwanted "y" strongly, and the missing dot over the second i is very noticeable. Overall, it's nice though.

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Loose the "THE" and to me it is too large, but the script looks great.

Fred

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As the new owner of this graphic, I like the "The". This was fun to work on and Randy is really insightful and was great about listening to my comments and concerns. If you need some work, I think you'd find him a pleasure to work with.

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Paid endorsement?

How can you even see it?


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Hey guys thanks for your comments! Ultimately I'm judging success based on Roberto's feedback, but yours is appreciated and has spurred further discussion between us which will improve the results. All good things!

To a couple specific comments:
Roberto paid me for the work. His recommendation is unsolicited.

Tony. Are you saying you still can't see the images, or are you saying you can't see the "the" if the images aren't visible it might be a caching issue?

I love drawing letters and look forward to sharing more here as it relates to guitars!

I'm not Tony, but I think he is more concerned about Blindrobert's ability to see them. . .

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looks too much like a baseball team logo with that underline, for my tastes...in other words, common looking/not very unique. the "guildesque" is pretty cool IMO

Roberto, obviously this is your decision, but, for what it's worth, I'm the the camp that is advising that you ditch the "The".

Pat

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My Tony-o-Meter appears to be faulty. Ha!

I would take out the "the" as well. Otherwise looks elegant

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John Mayes
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It's fun reading all the feedback, but the "The" is staying. I like it and I like that it has a quotidian un-fanciness to it. I will scale it down compared to the rendering, I like smallish logos.

The Guild-esque might get developed and used for my architecture/construction business cards.

No paid endorsement and I wasn't so much as asked to comment, let alone reimbursed somehow for my feedback. I did it under my own steam because I liked the process and the results. Jeepers, some of you guys must have pretty low opinions of humanity if you immediately question the integrity of someone's praise over less than $200 worth of work!

Oh - I'm only blind in one eye, the good eye is 20/10.

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I like it.

I was indeed referencing blindrobert's name when questioning his ability to see it. Although at the time, I thought it was just a blues inspired username and not an actual reflection on Robert's vision. No offense meant. Ever. I'm just a knucklehead who like to joke around.


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