Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Sat Aug 16, 2025 5:05 pm


All times are UTC - 5 hours


Forum rules


Be nice, no cussin and enjoy!




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 11 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 12:39 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:37 pm
Posts: 1744
Location: Virginia, USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
I'm building a guitar that is more on the lines of a cross between an electric and acoustic guitar. Think Taylor's T5, kind of.
What I'm doing is hollowing out an electric style body, like this.

Image

The shape is basically an L-00. What I've done is hollow out the guitar to a depth of 1 and 1/4"(total body depth is 1 and 9/16").
My plan is to brace the top the way an L-00 is braced(I realize I could probably run just two parallel braces on the top, but this will be practice for stepping out into acoustic building as well. Two birds with one stone, so to speak). I'll use the Fishman Powerjack preamp and a Soundboard transducer(SBT). There will be no sound hole. Since I don't expect to get a lot of unplugged acoustic tone from this, I'm hoping the lack of a sound hole will let me get just a bit more volume from the instrument through an amp or PA before feedback rears it's ugly head.
My questions are as follows.
Firstly, I've just received the top wood from Stew Mac. I'm in Virginia, Stew Mac is in Ohio. How long would you recommend I let the top acclimate to my weather/humidity conditions before working it?
Secondly, does anyone have a decent drawing/plan of an L-00 bracing pattern they can post as a PDF or email to me?
Thirdly, I've read several discussions on this board regarding most plans being a little on the heavy side as far as bracing dimensions are concerned. Can you give me a few starting guidelines, especially for the X bracing?
Thanks for any help you can give.

_________________
Mike

The only thing nescessary for evil to thrive is for good men to do nothing.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 1:06 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:56 am
Posts: 1825
Location: Grover NC
First name: Woodrow
Last Name: Brackett
City: Grover
State: NC
Zip/Postal Code: 28073
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Weigh the top with a resonably accurate scale. When the weight stays constant from day to day the top is aclimated.
I can't answer your question about plans, but.....is the scale length the same as a L00? Is it a 14 frets to the body neck? If not a plan won't do you much good.

_________________
I didn't mean to say it, but I meant what I said.
http://www.brackettinstruments.com/


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 1:17 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:34 pm
Posts: 1074
First name: Rob
Last Name: McDougall
City: Cochrane
State: Alberta
Hey Mike,

Cool looking build.
Google Grellier for some nice L-00 plans (public domain).


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 1:57 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:15 pm
Posts: 1041
First name: Gil
Last Name: Draper
City: Knoxville
State: Tennessee
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Professional
GAL has L-00 plans. Plan #55...

http://www.luth.org/plans/archtop.htm#plan55


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 2:14 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:37 pm
Posts: 1744
Location: Virginia, USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Thanks, guys. Just what I needed.

_________________
Mike

The only thing nescessary for evil to thrive is for good men to do nothing.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 3:12 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:00 pm
Posts: 2020
Location: Utah
Robbie_McD wrote:
Hey Mike,

Cool looking build.
Google Grellier for some nice L-00 plans (public domain).


+1 for the Grellier plans. They are nicely done and are free in either PDF or DXF format. Here's a link: http://www.grellier.fr/plans.php?lang=en


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 3:47 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:37 pm
Posts: 1744
Location: Virginia, USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
CharlieT wrote:
Robbie_McD wrote:
Hey Mike,

Cool looking build.
Google Grellier for some nice L-00 plans (public domain).


+1 for the Grellier plans. They are nicely done and are free in either PDF or DXF format. Here's a link: http://www.grellier.fr/plans.php?lang=en

Yep. Exactly what I needed. The only problem I had was that when I tried to download them, they came up as "file damaged", and would not come up in Adobe. However, if I simply left clicked on them, let them load up on the website, and saved them then, they downloaded just fine. The only one I'm having trouble with is the OM. The page does not want to load it up.
Oh well, two outta three ain't bad{hey, ain't that a song?).

_________________
Mike

The only thing nescessary for evil to thrive is for good men to do nothing.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 7:10 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Sat May 22, 2010 10:32 am
Posts: 2616
First name: alan
Last Name: stassforth
City: Santa Rosa
State: ca
Zip/Postal Code: 95404
Country: usa
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Cool axe, Mike!
Woody, brilliant way to see if wood is stabilized!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 8:01 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:37 pm
Posts: 1744
Location: Virginia, USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
alan stassforth wrote:
Cool axe, Mike!
Woody, brilliant way to see if wood is stabilized!

Thanks, Alan. And yeah, that's something I'll remember, Woody. Thanks.

_________________
Mike

The only thing nescessary for evil to thrive is for good men to do nothing.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 10:08 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 08, 2010 12:17 am
Posts: 1292
First name: John
Last Name: Arnold
City: Newport
State: TN
Zip/Postal Code: 37821
Country: USA
Focus: Repair
Status: Professional
If you don't have an accurate scale or a moisture meter, you can still determine when thin wood is acclimated to the environment. Just lay it flat with the top side exposed to the air. If the exposed side becomes concave, the wood is losing moisture to the surrounding air. If it becomes convex, it is gaining moisture. Flip the wood over and it should curl the other way. Keep flipping it until it remains flat, at which point it is in equilibrium with the surrounding air.

_________________
John


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 11:43 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:37 pm
Posts: 1744
Location: Virginia, USA
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Thanks, John. Can't get more simple than that. Sounds like a plan.

_________________
Mike

The only thing nescessary for evil to thrive is for good men to do nothing.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 11 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 15 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com