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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:33 pm 
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I need to add cutaway capability to my Fox bender (spring steel slats, heating blanket). Any recommendations for an attachment to add that will handle cutaways with a minimum amount of fussing around?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:03 pm 
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Do you mean you just need to buy the cutaway ram? John might sell you one from Bluescreek, and Kevin at bluemountainacoustics has them on the website.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:11 pm 
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Yes, I need just the ram. If someone is using a really good version of this, I would like to hear about it.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:03 pm 
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mine is pretty simple just a veneer press screw ...attaches to the side with a 1/4 inch rod that just slides in and out


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:40 pm 
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Mine'similar, not hard to make.

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Good idea to devise a way to anchor the lower slat during removal so it does not pop out and damage the side. Having a removable top on your bender makes getting the side out easier.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:53 am 
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I used a clamp like Terrance and Wes, bought the press at Grizzly, and made the wood support structure in my shop.

http://www.grizzly.com/products/Veneer-Press-Clamp/H2597

Terrance,
is the red band coming out of the cutaway press what you use to hold the lower slat in place? I'm still looking for a good way to hold that slat. Almost broke a cutaway last time when that slat popped out.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:03 pm 
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gozierdt wrote:
Terrance,
is the red band coming out of the cutaway press what you use to hold the lower slat in place? I'm still looking for a good way to hold that slat. Almost broke a cutaway last time when that slat popped out.


Yes, it's just a piece of thin flat non-stretchable ribbon from my wife's sewing room. I put it between the wood and the lower slat when I clamp up the sandwich and run it through the guide slot in the mechanism. I put some little rope cleats on the side to anchor it. I also clamp the butt end of the lower slat with a couple of spring clamps taped to the frame of the bender with brown binding tape.
Here's a better shot. You can see the clamp on the butt end of the lower slat. It really shines when bending binding.

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On my archtops there is enough flat runout after he cutaway on the bending form that I can just clamp the slat to the form with a C clamp

I clamp the lower slat on regular bends as well using the same method. Makes life a lot easier taking the side out.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:03 pm 
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Lee Valley has the press screws as well: http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=31138&cat=1,43838,43845

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:14 pm 
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I've also seen them in stock at at both Woodcraft and Rockler.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:21 pm 
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I hate to admit I haven't used mine yet (from Bluemountain, 2 years ago) but I saw John's (Bluescreek) and thinks his is patented to adjust, which helps the tight bends. I'd buy his now if I could go back! Perhaps a PM to him to see why his is different would help. idunno

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:26 am 
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Or simply bend the cutaway by hand on a hot pipe. Experience has shown me that doing cutaways on the hot pipe saves a lot of cracked sides.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:01 am 
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I found that if i extend the "nose" of the cutaway form forward a few inches, it gives better support & concentrates the bend in the right place. If you want to try it, you don't have to make a new form, just glue & screw a block on the front of the one you have.
Worked for me, anyway...


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