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Hello, I have a question to the people who are using the woodmaster ct and are experienced in resawing:

Can you approximately guess how many sets of ziricote you can resaw with one blade? the reson for the question is that I want to order these blades, but I dont know how many I have to order? and since shipping, welding etc is not cheap, and of course i could get a little bit a better price when I take more, it would be very helpfull if I could calculated with a number.

Thank you for any answer.

Best regrads, Alex

From my limited experience resawing woods (for my own use,basically), including a couple of billets of ziricote, using the Woodmaster CT blade on my Laguna SE20 ("Bowl Turner's Bandsaw") with Driftmaster fence, I'd say you should be able to cut sets all day long, every day, for more than a month, possibly a lot longer. Ziricote is relatively soft (compared to Ebony and Cocobolo, etc.). YMMV.

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Dave F.

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OH, Really? I am surpirsed, thought i could be happy if i get something between 10 and 20 sets, now I am getting curiouse...

You have some variables . Size of the saw , guides used , How is it fed into the saw ?

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Hello the saw is a german Bäuerle BS 70.

Wheeldiameter: 27,5 "
length of sawbalde: 196,85 "
Power: 4,5 HP
3 Phase, 380 Volt
about 1600 lbs
Blade 1", 1,3 TPI
fence: Selfmade Plywood,adjusting the drift with aligning the fence.
Two big rubber wheels are pushing the wood constantly against the fence.
Fed into the saw by my own manpower ...no powerfeeder, but I have one
powerfeeder from my tablerouter, shall i use him? would be some work getting this monster one the saw...

I resawed quite a lot of brw, madrose, guatamala rosewood, ebony fingerboards, etc.

but this i did all with another blade, wich cut nice, but was dull soooooo fast....
former Blade used:
http://www.hema-saegen.de/fileadmin/PDF ... er2006.pdf
the IKARUS

Bandsaw: like this: but instead of the 80, I have the 70
http://www.maschinensucher.de/A875443/B ... uerle.html


Guides above and under the table like this:
http://1atools-shop.at/Schutzvorrichtun ... -oben.html
http://1atools-shop.at/Schutzvorrichtun ... unten.html
http://www.meus-maschinen.de/service/up ... 2_2011.pdf

I am just getting a little bit WORRIED because of the negative bandsaw experiences we are diskussing these days....
Here in germany it is not easy to get the lenox woodmaster ct delivered, but i found somebody. Unfortunatelly I have to take at least 5 blades,minimum order quantity, but when they REALLY stand so long, this should be ok for a while, yes? no need to order like 10 or so?

How fast are you running your ct?

Best regrads, and any tips VERY welcome, I want to pick up the blades tomorrow, and set up and start resawing in the afternoon....so I am very thankfull for any tips, hints, recommendations.

I will post the results and my experience with the ct.

Best regrads, ALex

I'm using a 143" Woodmaster CT on a 3HP Grizzly Extreme series wired to 220 with a stock fence. Cuts straight and accurately. I'm still relatively new to re-sawing, but IMO this blade made it easy and allowed my relatively simple setup to work well.

I've cut roughly:
12 sets of maple
5 sets of Walnut
20-30 sets of gabon ebony binding
several Macassar and Gabon ebony head plates
8 sets of Brazilian Rosewood
2 sets of Bubinga
a lot of mahogany for neck blanks
a lot of ebony for laminated neck blanks
a lot of maple for laminated neck blanks
and several other things that I can't recall at the moment.

So far there is no indication of slowing down at all. Feed rate is almost too fast as it will take wood as fast as I push it with the exception of ebony and RW. There is just a bit of resistance with an 8" chunk of Gabon or BRW. It goes through maple like butter. Before I bought this blade I was using the stock Timberwolf blade, which I promptly threw right in the trash after trying the CT. That thing burned maple and took forever to get through 4" of walnut after just a few uses.

Bottom line is (as long as you aren't using a 14" saw) you can't go wrong with the Woodmaster CT in my opinion.

Since I put the 1" blade on my Bridgewood, I have cut about 3 dozen sets from koa, mango, black walnut, bastogne walnut, and bubinga as well as resawn wood for rosettes and bindings. The blade still seems to be cutting with no issues.

Ken

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I have a 1" - 1.3 tpi Woodmaster CT on my large Rikon.

My standard billet is 8/4 x 19" x 7" and is tyically resawn to 4/4 x 19" x 7" in order to make bookmatched plates for electric guitar bodies.

The billets are hard maple, big leaf maple, mahogany, bloodwood, purple heart and sapele. The vast majority is sapele. I've done at least 125 of these cuts on this blade.

In addition I've cut 35 fretboards of cocobolo, maybe 150 test panels of maple and sapele, and roughy 200 cuts for neck laminate stock of maple, sapele, peruvian walnut, and bloodwood.

The blade doesn't show any sign of wear so far. I bought two of them and I don't think I'll be needing the other for a while.

I'm a big fan of these blades though I admit I haven't tried anything other than the joke stock blade that came with the new saw...which was truly a waste of metal.

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I've sawn a little Ziricote & it is hard but not oily & nasty like Cocobolo which gums up & gets hot.

I've done a lot of sawing with my Woodmaster CT 1.3 tpi & it's just starting to show a slight reduction in performance.

Since your saw is big (more blade, less wear per set) I'd guess that you could get at least 40 or 50 sets of Ziricote cut if not more.

Kevin Looker

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One question about the Woodmaster CT blade...

How long does it last before breaking on a 18 inch wheel? I noticed many of you used them in 18" bandsaws, how are they doing long term?

I am asking because the smallest Woodmaster CT blade is 1" wide .035" thickness.

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According to many charts they recommend at least a 24" wheel on a .035" thick blade... so I was wondering if its ok to use them with 18" wheels...

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I've had a Woodmaster CT on my 18" Rikon since March of 2010. It has cut a lot of wood. I'm starting to think about replacing it. It is showing signs of dullness.

Do you use them for resawing only, or do you leave it on the saw for general purpose work (ripping, cutting tenons, etc.)?

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I use it for everything. I recently took it off and used a very narrow kerf blade for some expensive wood. The Woodmaster has a pretty wide kerf. I had some problems with it jumping resawing Osage Orange, a very hard wood. I got a Trimaster for that (an even wider kerf). But mostly, I've been using the Woodmaster as a general purpose blade.

Right now I have been using 1/4" 6T Diemaster 2 for general work in a 10" bandsaw... its about all it could take reliably. Even that breaks in about 6 months of use when it still had some life in it. I was going to use that same Diemaster 2 for general purpose work like ripping, cutting some curves, cutting thin guitar plates to rough profile (no way one is going to use the Woodmaster CT for that) but have been rethinking that. I got a coil of some 1/4" 6T blades, no idea what it is, probably hardback because it broke after 5 minutes of use in the 10" bandsaw but hope it could work in the 18" as a curve cutting blade. Woodmaster CT is a lot cheaper than Trimaster for some reason, and definitely way cheaper than Resaw King... and from all the reviews it is a very good blade (some complained about the quality of Resaw Kings).

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A 10" bandsaw usually requires special thin blades to minimize breakage. The blade has to bend quite a bit to go around the small wheels. There's no way a Woodmaster CT would work on that saw. And, the saw probably doesn't have the power to driver the wider carbide tip.