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 Post subject: Balloons anyone?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:29 am 
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Anybody else a fan of this?

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 Post subject: Re: Balloons anyone?
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looks like a sweet idea! [:Y:] i had a hard time with my first soundhole lol


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 Post subject: Re: Balloons anyone?
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Not really, I find it tends to muffle the sound.

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Catgut is an abbreviation of the word cattle gut. Gut strings are made from sheep or goat intestines, in the past even from horse, mule or donkey intestines.

Otherwise it could be from the word kitgut or kitstring. Kit meant fiddle, not kitten.


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 Post subject: Re: Balloons anyone?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:33 am 
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Sort of, I use a balloon to hold in a plastic lid that's a little bigger than the sound hole. You can sort of see it in this picture. I don't remember where I got the lid from but it's just slightly larger than the sound hole. Bend it to get it in. This way, no finish pools at the balloon/top interface.


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 Post subject: Re: Balloons anyone?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:23 am 
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Paper bowls cut to size and held by a Waverly foam square. It's going to be difficult to have clean soundhole edges with the balloons.


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 Post subject: Re: Balloons anyone?
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I use the balloon approach and like it. I tend to move it a bit in between coats so that it doesn't get stuck to the soundhole with finish. Haven't had problems with that approach. Works best if the balloon is just a tad underinflated.


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 Post subject: Re: Balloons anyone?
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Got a whole box of latex gloves that Grizzly sent me for free with an order once. I blow one of those up and use it. They lay a bit flatter than a balloon.

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 Post subject: Re: Balloons anyone?
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Laurent Brondel wrote:
Paper bowls cut to size and held by a Waverly foam square. It's going to be difficult to have clean soundhole edges with the balloons.


Hey Laurent - that burst is a stunning! [:Y:] [clap]


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+1 on the paper bowl and sponge

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 Post subject: Re: Balloons anyone?
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Never Had a problem with edge effects around the sound hole. I size the balloon such that once inserted, it's not that much different than the sponge plate method. The ballOons contact pressure results from the balloon pushing against the back of the guitar,


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 Post subject: Re: Balloons anyone?
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I tried the balloon thing once, but I didn't pay enough attention & developed a ridge of finish that chipped away when I removed the balloon. Now I use a chunk of mattress foam & a disc of bristol board.
Another plus to this method is that you can remove the disc & measure the finish thickness after each session.


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 Post subject: Re: Balloons anyone?
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A nice Green use Todd. [:Y:]
And nice burst Laurent.


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 Post subject: Re: Balloons anyone?
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I honestly had never thought of the paper bowl solution. I've been one of those who just packed the inside with paper towels. The bowl solution is one of the best ideas I've seen in a long time. Like so many other things in life, it's OBVIOUS--but only after someone else points it out to me.


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 Post subject: Re: Balloons anyone?
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Large drink lids and cottage cheese type container lids would probably also work with a piece of foam backing.


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 Post subject: Re: Balloons anyone?
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I use to use bowls like Laurent and Todd, but I found that I got terrible blowback when I passed the spray gun over the bowl. I now use a flat lid held in place with a sponge.

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So, I'm like the only one who is using balloons?

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Mike O'Melia wrote:
So, I'm like the only one who is using balloons?

Mike



I think im going to try and use the balloon method on my next one, just take extra care that the edges of the soundhole come out nice. Ill just keep in mind all of the other comments that were said by other pros about the soundhole edge [:Y:]


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Mike O'Melia wrote:
So, I'm like the only one who is using balloons?

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I think im going to try and use the balloon method on my next one, just take extra care that the edges of the soundhole come out nice. Ill just keep in mind all of the other comments that were said by other pros about the soundhole edge [:Y:]


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So Cute!!

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 Post subject: Re: Balloons anyone?
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Mike O'Melia wrote:
So, I'm like the only one who is using balloons?

Mike


Not if you count my blown-up latex gloves.

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