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Dave Lynn
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The last post I found from him was posted in May of last year.

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Filippo Morelli wrote:
I believe it was a freak bicycling accident on the OLF. Innertube blew out.

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I have inside information that the accident involved a marmot, two bound copies of "The Brothers Karamazov" and a bottle of chocolate syrup. I can't give any more details... fortunately. It's pretty ugly.

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I heard it was the marshmallow and colored sprinkles that put him over the edge just before he did that free styling bike stuff on the old schwinn

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Filippo Morelli wrote:
I believe it was a freak bicycling accident on the OLF. Innertube blew out.

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I heard it was the marshmallow and colored sprinkles that put him over the edge just before he did that free styling bike stuff on the old schwinn


Do you think eventually we'll all end up being slated like this, or am I missing something?

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The legend says that one day, while inlaying a rosette, Michael Payne felt in a dark, black and cold soundhole. Some versions of this legend say that he tried to yell for help, but 'cause the top plate and the back was tuned to the same exact note, his cries were inaudible. Nobody saw Payne since that day.

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Does no one, apart from Rod, feel like giving a sensible answer to an innocent question?

I seem to remember he said that his job would leave him very little time for forums.
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Yes I recall much the same Dave and I think it was a few months into the GFC when he mentioned that he was required to change roles in the company he worked for and this would require a lot more travel away from home. Micheal did drop back for a short while after that but I have not seen a post form him for a good while, maybe his work load is just too full on for guitar related stuff now days which is sad for this forum.

Hope he is traveling well.

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Thank you Rod, Dave and Kim.
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I was unaware of the MIMF sager Filippo but I do not doubt it happened. I do know that Michele did indeed make public his changing work situation and that fact we would be seeing less of him as a result prior to that event. I can only say that thanks to the OP's question, I am sure that many of us now have some clarity, even if is is yet another sad example of how little we grow..I am with David Higham on this though, the fooling around by those 'in the know' prior to clarification of the question at hand may have been funny for you guys, but it was quite disrespectful to the OP.

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I agree Filippo, had the OP done a search, and had the threads not been deleted, and had the reason for Michale's departure not been mainly associated with a topic which took place at the MIMF, 'then' the OP and the rest of us could have been easily informed of what happened. But the point is that none of these things fell into place for anyone who was not in on the joke because those topics 'had' been deleted. Whilst I am always up for a bit of banter, I do think it would have been more appropriate to answer the OP's question respectfully 'before' things were allowed to drifted the way they did.

No venom, just saying tis all.

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I have no idea what happened to Michael. I don't know Michael, except through online forums. I've never even exchanged PM's or E-mails with him...............but I believe his situation possibly involved more than job changes, or someone dissing his plans.

Dennis Leahy purchased a tuner from Michael last Feburary, and I'm pretty sure he never recieved it. This was months before him pouting over the plans.
http://www.luthiersforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10124&t=26240

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Filippo Morelli wrote:
Is it not obvious that I got the point? For clarity I wrote that I also meant no disrespect. What else do you need me to do, Kim? What am I not understanding?
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Nothing Filippo, everything is fine and dandy 'now', and thanks to your clarification, we are all finally on the same base.

My point however is that the OP's question should have been addressed respectfully as a first priority. That was not done even though the information was available to some who instead chose to turn the OP's topic into a private joke session, that in itself could very easily been taken as disrespectful but the OP.

Seem it would be a whole lot easier for everyone if people would not simply assume that everyone else is across what they know before they attempt cryptic wit, especially if it has anything to do with something which mainly transpired on another forum.

Like I said, no venom, I am simply saying that this topic could have been dealt with better by all those who posted before Rod True.

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woody b wrote:
http://www.luthiersforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10124&t=26240

Dennis, you're a great guy.


Hey Woody,

I agree, Dennis is a great bloke...but your link only takes me to an OLF page which states that I do not have permission to view...could this be because I am too tight to pony up for the classifieds??

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He was giving French Polish lessons at Robbie O'Brien's Guitar Building School last I heard. Perhaps Robbie knows more.

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What a shame. I'd have loved for him to be available for serious questions regarding the OLF plans - especially from a newbie such as myself. I'm really enjoying immersing myself into building the MJ.
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Kim wrote:
woody b wrote:
http://www.luthiersforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10124&t=26240

Dennis, you're a great guy.


Hey Woody,

I agree, Dennis is a great bloke...but your link only takes me to an OLF page which states that I do not have permission to view...could this be because I am too tight to pony up for the classifieds??

Cheers

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Yep, it's in the classifieds. I didn't think about that. Basically, on Feburary 25(2010) Michael posted a Peterson VS-II tuner for sale. Dennis bought it the same day. They exchanged friendly comments several times the same day. On July 4 2010 Dennis posted.
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OK, I paid for this on February 25th, and have been patient beyond anyone's definition of patient. I paid immediately, literally within seconds (if I remember correctly - it has been quite a while and my memory may be off a bit, it might have been minutes rather than seconds.)

Several times, shipment was promised, but it never has been shipped. I know Michael left the OLF, ticked off at someone, but that is not a reason to leave me in the lurch. Does anyone know Michael? Does anyone have contact with him? If someone has contact with Michael, please tell him that I still want the tuner shipped to me - not just a refund. It would not be fair to put me through all this waiting - over four months - and end up with no tuner after all.

I'm an honest person, a straight shooter, and very understanding, but this has gone beyond even my patience. I am still assuming that Michael is an honest person, and that he will send me the tuner that I paid for.

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Michael never responded. JJ mentioned trying to contact Michael through Robbie
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I have the same tuner. I'll let you borrow mine until you get yours from Michael if you need one. Doesn't fix the mess, but if your in a need for one I'm more than happy to loan mine out. I hate to see ya get stiffed.

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Thanks JJ. I don't want to ask anything of Robbie or put him in the middle, just because he has dealings with Michael.

Something has gone terribly sour with this deal. Something must have happened in Michael's life that led to this, because I just refuse to believe that it was his intent to rip me off. After thinking about this for a good long while, I have decided to make sure that Michael does not rip me off, by just giving him the money if he needs it that bad. If he ever sends me the tuner, great, I'll use it, but if not, I'll just think of this as $85 that I gave to someone who was in some kind of financial trouble. I understand that Michael accidentally broke one or more of his teeth with a wrench, then had a heart attack, and I just can't add to that list by letting him think he stole money from me.

Michael, if you are reading this, I'm still convinced that you have a good heart, and that you are an honest person. I forgive you the debt. I hope things turn around for you.

John, what a wonderfully generous offer. Warms my heart. I probably won't take you up on your generous offer, but it really shows your character and I sure do appreciate you.

Dennis



My apologies if posting all these quotes is against forum rules.
Also my apologies to Kim (and anyone else) for posting a link you couldn't access. I understand and respect your views on the classifieds, even though my views are different.

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I was at that FP class at RRCC last year. I remember the issues with his work as well as him stating he pulled back a bit from building after his fiasco with the feds. I guess someone bought a guitar from him with a fraudulent check, and the feds showed up at his door one day. Kind of turned him off from building. Maybe not the building so much, but building for others. There were also OLF issues with people making rude and inappropriate comments in messages to him that he felt he shouldn't have to deal with. I dont really know the details on that though. so I'll leave it at that. Dont remember him saying anything about comments on the OM plans bracing.

I was real surprised on the tuner issue. He seemed like stand up guy when I meet him at RRCC and the previous year when I purchased a Blackheart Sassafras set from him here.

All in all, I think its just that he didn't have time for it.
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Michael and I are friends - last year we did a serious project together, so I felt, incorrectly it seems, that I could tease Michael a little bit.

Oh, and all you guys who don't KNOW why Michael is not posting, are just spreading rumors/speculating. That's not cool.

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Is it just me......or did Michael in making the final "cleanup" of his OM plans for the OLF make several changes that made the design stiffer? I waited on the "cleaned up" version he sold to the OLF before buying and recall being disappointed in the changes.

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Todd, I've no problem with your comments, you have always measured your words pretty carefully. I try too, also. And this is not directed to you, but I really, really hate the idea that we can't have any fun here once in a while. Life is too damned short.

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SteveCourtright wrote:
I really, really hate the idea that we can't have any fun here once in a while. Life is too damned short.



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Filippo Morelli wrote:
Steve, I can't win. I tried to reply tongue and cheek and got soundly smacked multiple times. So I gave what I knew. I didn't speculate on the departure at the OLF. I was in the thread where Michael threw up his hands and basically said he was leaving. I don't know his thinking, just what he said.

But obviously either tongue and cheek or recollection of events seems to please. Oh well.

Wish him well for us, next time you see him.

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I enjoyed your tounge in cheek comments ! [:Y:] We should all be able to do so on occasion without retrebution . " now someones gonna chew me over spelling " laughing6-hehe laughing6-hehe

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A few days later Dennis posted
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Thanks JJ. I don't want to ask anything of Robbie or put him in the middle, just because he has dealings with Michael.

Something has gone terribly sour with this deal. Something must have happened in Michael's life that led to this, because I just refuse to believe that it was his intent to rip me off. After thinking about this for a good long while, I have decided to make sure that Michael does not rip me off, by just giving him the money if he needs it that bad. If he ever sends me the tuner, great, I'll use it, but if not, I'll just think of this as $85 that I gave to someone who was in some kind of financial trouble. I understand that Michael accidentally broke one or more of his teeth with a wrench, then had a heart attack, and I just can't add to that list by letting him think he stole money from me.

Michael, if you are reading this, I'm still convinced that you have a good heart, and that you are an honest person. I forgive you the debt. I hope things turn around for you.

John, what a wonderfully generous offer. Warms my heart. I probably won't take you up on your generous offer, but it really shows your character and I sure do appreciate you.

Dennis



Thanks for taking the time to post that Woody, just shows how right you were in saying that Dennis Leahy is a great guy...many, including myself, could all learn much from him that has nothing whatsoever to do with Michael or guitars.

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