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 Post subject: is it #2 or #1
PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:03 am 
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o.k. so i built my first guitar in a "class" held by a master builder, basicly what I did was shape the parts and asemble them at his direction , ie " shape the brace to look like this ' etc etc very little discusion took place concerning voicing or the why or wherefor of any part of the process. while the top was off, in the excitement of building , I signed my top and numbered the guitar 001 .
so now three years later, after going through the process of tooling,relearning many of the assembly processes , studying voicing and all that . I now have my first solo build finished, which I will be offering for sale, since it has been strung up for more than a year, sounds better than I hoped and has not moved even a tad under string tension.
so my question is , is my latest my second guitar or my first guitar ? thanks Jody


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 Post subject: Re: is it #2 or #1
PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:26 am 
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Jody, How about one and a half :)


It's your first IMO.


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 Post subject: Re: is it #2 or #1
PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:43 am 
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I'd call it your second but it can be your first if you want.

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 Post subject: Re: is it #2 or #1
PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:51 am 
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I would say 1st as it was the first solo build, is it as well built and sound as good or even better than the student guitar. If so you are on your way and lessons were well learned

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 Post subject: Re: is it #2 or #1
PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:20 pm 
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I dont know, if you call it #1, then theres going to be all sorts of confusion down the road with duplicate serial numbers, just like 50-60's Gibsons. :)


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 Post subject: Re: is it #2 or #1
PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:25 pm 
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I think that 'they all count'!
So it's #2 in my book.

Or, you could follow in the steps of some of the 'masters' and start your numbering from 100, or put the year in the numbering scheme (your first might be 0801, your second 0901, third and fourth 1001, 1002, etc...) - just as long as the guitar collectors of the 22nd century are confused!
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 Post subject: Re: is it #2 or #1
PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:57 pm 
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Jody: If you have to ask it must concern you. For me it wouldn't matter,either for you or myself if I was doing it. To use the old cliche " Follow your gut".
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 Post subject: Re: is it #2 or #1
PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:31 pm 
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Well I was quite certain it was #2 , then a few people said," its realy YOUR # 1 " this one ( #2 ) is a dread, # 3 is an OLF s-j


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 Post subject: Re: is it #2 or #1
PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:48 pm 
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Todd Stock wrote:
If I have to understand what I'm doing to count a guitar as my #1, I guess I must have started at -150 or so.


laughing6-hehe

That was my thought when I read the OP as well- when can I start with the 'plus' numbering??


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 Post subject: Re: is it #2 or #1
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:34 pm 
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Todd Stock wrote:
If I have to understand what I'm doing to count a guitar as my #1, I guess I must have started at -150 or so.


well Todd the question is not realy what do(or did) I know. but what did I realy contribute to the outcome of the instrument? I selected none of the materials, the guitar was his design, he made all the critical descisions, such as plate thickness brace locations( and dimensions) the couple minor mistakes were repaired by the master ,and I am sure he even did some voicing after hours when the students were not there .
I am fine with calling the latest #2 especialy since the first was signed and dated ,but there is some doubt as to what my contribution to the outcome actualy was was. I tell everyone localy I built it, which technicly I did , but I will not bring it to a gathering of luthiers and present it as my work ! But it certainly did create a very high bar for the quality and sound of #2! Jody


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