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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:05 pm 
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The newest Luthier Tips du Jour instructional video is on Youtube. The topic is the V joint. Subtitles are available in both English and Portuguese and you can translate them into any other language by using the CC option on Youtube.
As always, comments and discussion are welcome.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:24 pm 
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Thank you to everyone that provide pics of their guitars with V joints for this video.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:27 pm 
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Very cool--thanks Robbie.

Are any of you using a v joint on steel string guitars?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:47 pm 
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Thanks for that Robbie. Cool trick with the water to see where the joint needs shaving.
Evan, I've used the v-joint on a couple of steel strings.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 2:04 pm 
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Nice video, Robbie. Yet another method!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:31 pm 
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For those who do this type of joint on a regular basis it's worth making marking out templates for both the male and female parts. A real time saver. There are quite a few variations on the V joint. The one shown in Robbie's video is known as the through V. Sorry to be pedantic but the joint hails back to at least the 17th century.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:40 pm 
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Robbie--another great video--hey-just cause I forgot how to set heel and tail blocks, for awhile there, I can still learn. Thanks,mt


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:24 am 
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Thanks everyone. There are several variations and themes on the v joint. As Michael said the one I show is known as the through V. There is also one known as the covered V.
David Schramm has some videos on Youtube about it.



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:12 pm 
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Why Portuguese?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:26 pm 
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Ian Cunningham wrote:
Why Portuguese?


Portuguese is for my Brazilian friends. The Spanish speaking world can understand enough of it to understand what is being said as well.
Also, you get a more correct translation from Portuguese to other romance languages than you do from English when using the translation option form Youtube.
I figure that pretty much covers most of the bases. [:Y:]


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:41 pm 
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Evan, I use the V joint on both six and twelve strings (with very heavy strings) and it works very well. I do it with a bandsaw and disc sander, and if the jigs are carefully made, it works like a charm.
You can see the process at my website on the "Visit shop" page.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:43 am 
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That's a nice video from Robbie O'Brien, and certainly pulling this off is quite a skill. However, I'm a little underwhelmed by the joint itself. I guess it's traditional on some classicals. But if I don't want a volute, I'd just do a scarf joint for simplicity and superior strength. If I'm going to the trouble of a fitted V-type joint, I'd go for a bird's beak joint: very strong and beautiful and with a functional volute. I love a volute, and more so if it's not just decorative as on a one piece neck. John Greven gives a great demo of how to make this joint on his webpage (click extras, then "bird's beak demo").

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:17 pm 
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Cool, thanks Haans. I think I'll be trying it soon.

Are you based in Minneapolis proper? I was born and raised in Monticello, MN--I had no idea back then there was so much lutherie going on in MN!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:13 pm 
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Thanks Robbie. That was a great video. I think I'm going to have to work on adding that into my repertoire.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:27 pm 
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Evan I am in Mpls, across the parkway from Robbinsdale.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:21 am 
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Excelente vídeo Robbie. Muito obrigado.
In the future, if you need help with the translation to Portuguese, don't hesitate to ask.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:40 pm 
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Nice video. Its always great to see how the masters do it


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:58 pm 
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Antonio wrote:
Excelente vídeo Robbie. Muito obrigado.
In the future, if you need help with the translation to Portuguese, don't hesitate to ask.


Obrigado Antonio.


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