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 Post subject: hmm?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:51 pm 
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I wonder how many Instruments have been built out of a progenitor-subspecies(?) hybrid.
not educated enough to understand much but basically Red Black hybrids are a recombination
of black spruces line.

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http://www.amjbot.org/cgi/content/full/90/12/1801

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 Post subject: Re: hmm?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:04 pm 
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so then ya read this
http://www.genetics.org/cgi/content/full/171/4/1951

and this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternal_mtDNA_transmission

and ya figgers it out

duh -Paddy he was in his garden tendin his morrels when the Tone Fearie stopped by after work for a little rest(it kan be emotianly exaustin inspiring and being reinspired by those who listen for the song within the trees).


duh- Paddy was servin up dinner(sauted morels , watercress on walnut bread (Yum!)). then some of his other mischivious buddies (Coyote and Wispering Spiders) could not resist a bite and conversation whith another magical creature such as he.. well to make a long story short-

duh slightly overseverd the fermented honeysuckle dew and applejack while all were listenig to the wispering spiders discuss truths-not-yet(their favorite thing to do; why else would they be called the weavers of fate).
A slightly drunken idea was developed within the mostly male collective consciousness ...(actually the females in attendance where of the playful devious type and it could have been they thought it would be a hoot to trick them into thinking it was a male idea).

duh-Paddy and his buds had a grand ole time deciding to induce parental leakage through mitochondrial genome recombination in order to produce slightly more male-unique voice for those who listen for the song whithin trees to find.

Now I know this is a little had to follow for some that have just begun listening for the voices

but it x-plains why they still talk about duh -Paddy passin out an bein' stiffed full o little blue pills, sent neck id back in time ,(sorry but that the only way they do it, if I understand correctly). Only recently being allowed back after finishing his job of handing more of those little blue pills among the home of the Red Spruce


duh

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 Post subject: Re: hmm?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:51 pm 
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I guess we will never know. I remember reading somewhere the once they are cut and the foliage removed, you simply cannot tell the difference between red and black spruce logs with the eye. The suggestion here was that regardless of what CF Martin thought they were getting from the loggers back in the day, they would have no doubt been receiving a mixture of the two and/or hybrids also. So if you cant tell the difference between red and black spruce once the needles and cones are removed, what chance would you have of picking a hybrid unless the off spring displayed unusual vigor?? And this lead to the question, if you can't tell the difference between the 2 pure strains and the hybrid, then what difference does it make to us anyhow? If it's simply academic musings or botanical babble, then it has no real bearing on this craft, for if their properties remain identical, so too would they look and sound all the same on a guitar.

I can tell you this, in the world of plants, particularly conifers and cycads like the encephalartos which are all closely related, very many varieties can only be correctly identified for sex and 'species' only once a cone has been produced, and this can take years (some encephalartos around 30 years or more depending upon enviroment), and even then you still cannot be certain you do not have a hybrid. The point I make is that sometimes the division of one species from the next can come down to something as insignificant as the insertion angle of the leaflets upon the rachis or even their spacings, and apart from this one defining factor the two species are in fact EXACTLY the same. So to my point, what does it all matter just as long as they all sound grouse 8-)

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