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 Post subject: Arched Flat Tops
PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 5:35 pm 
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I've never arched the bracing for any of the flat top guitars I've made. From reading, it seems that
arching the top strengthens a guitar top just as an arched bridge (think Golden Gate) is stronger than a flat bridge.

But structurally, on the face of it, arching a bridge seems quite unlike what happens when a guitar top is arched
in that on a bridge there is downward force and on a guitar there is an upward pull, seemingly similar to a
bridge only if cars drove on its underside, upside down with reverse gravity.

So my question is, does arching cause stiffness in both directions - from force toward its' concavity as well as its
convexity?


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 Post subject: Re: Arched Flat Tops
PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 6:07 pm 
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Another important reason to arch a flat top is to decrease the likelihood of cracking from humitidy and temperature changes.


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 Post subject: Re: Arched Flat Tops
PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:49 pm 
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This topic gets brought up a couple times a year.

There are a handfull of custom builders who do not arch their braces and the top is truely flat. Jim Olson, Kevin Ryan, Charlie Hoffman and Bob Taylor with the R. Taylor line to name a few.

If a guitar is brought below an optimal RH level, it will crack, regardless of the arch or not. The strength in arching is indeed for a load bearing on the top of the arch pressing the arch into compression, not the other way around.

Arching does stiffen the top which can cause a change in sound which I think is really the advantage of arching versus leaving the braces flat.

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 Post subject: Re: Arched Flat Tops
PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 5:32 am 
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An arched flat top guitar will work by adding stiffness and the little extra will allow movement during RH changes. I have not seen a domed top crack unless the top sank. I am in Pa and we do have extreme RH changes . Still it goes to show that there is more than 1 way to build a guitar.

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 Post subject: Re: Arched Flat Tops
PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:01 pm 
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I actually just completed my very first true flat top guitar and I am quite pleased with the sound. Same woods and body type as a lot of my guitars but the sound is very punchy and airy if that means anything.


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