Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Wed Jul 30, 2025 5:48 pm


All times are UTC - 5 hours


Forum rules


Be nice, no cussin and enjoy!




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 4 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:46 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:48 pm
Posts: 130
Location: Bellingham, WA
First name: George
Last Name: Thomas
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
Hi All:

I was thinking about using a 630mm scale on a Hauser style classical, instead of the 650mm scale. What do folks think about moving the sound hole up a little so as to keep the bridge centered in the active area of the top? Thanks.

_________________
GEO
perpetual beginner


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:37 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:05 am
Posts: 9191
Location: United States
First name: Waddy
Last Name: Thomson
City: Charlotte
State: NC
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
I can't see why it would be a problem, nor do I see why it would be necessary. The only difference you are talking about is between 10 & 11 mm depending on changes in compensation. I doubt it would make a major difference in the sound of the instrument. The bridge would still be near the widest part of the lower bout. Moving the sound hole would require different placement of the TB's and would require longer fan braces, which would probably have more impact on the sound, and introduce other variables that would be more difficult to work out than moving the bridge 10mm. Much more change than that, though, and I think you'd have to re-design the insides of the instrument, and possibly the plantilla.

This, of course, is only my opinion, and does not reflect the opinions of other builders on this site, or the opinions of the management of OLF.

_________________
Waddy

Photobucket Build Album Library

Sound Clips of most of my guitars


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:30 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood

Joined: Sat Jan 15, 2005 12:50 pm
Posts: 3933
Location: United States
Moving the soundhole up, by itself, can make a surprising amount of difference in the pitch of the 'main air' resonance. As it gets closer to the upper edge the main air pitch tends to drop. You might want to enlarge it by a little (say add 1/8" diameter of a bit more). For more on this look up W.D.Allen's 'Basics of Air Resonances' in the GALs 'Big Red Book #1'.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:35 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Sun May 10, 2009 9:33 am
Posts: 486
First name: Kent
Last Name: Bailey
City: Florissant
State: Colorado
Zip/Postal Code: 80816
Country: usa
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Just so happens.....I have just installed a new top on a old 63 Goya 630 scale with a similar to Hauser style bracing system. The soundhole on the original top was 4" from 12th. fret to top of soundhole and diameter was 3 7/16.
I did not change the (centered) location of the soundhole on the new top....BUT, I altered the shape into something a bit different with the same opening area. Made for a difficult freehand rossette experience.
I'll post final pictures when I get'r done.
Kent Bailey

_________________
Wood Creations by Kent A. Bailey
EXCELLENCE IN SCULPTURE, CARVING, LUTHIER, ARCHITECTURAL MILLWORK AND DESIGN

http://www.kabart.com


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 4 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Alaska Splty Woods, doncaparker and 13 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com