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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 1:51 pm 
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Does anyone have a source for sandvik ( or an equal ) cabinet scrapers? I started out with some "shop fox" after about two minutes of scraping, they start losing the edge and leaving striations where the edge has failed in some places . thanks jody


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 2:31 pm 
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I don't know anything about sandvik scrapers. If you want some good scrapers that stay sharp.......well I guess sharp isn't the word.............don't need to be burnished often make your own. Go to a pawn shop and buy an OLD carpenters hand saw. You can get an old rusty one with a broken handle for a dollar or so. Cut your scrapers out of it. I've only been exposed to a few store bought scrapers but my homemade ones work alot longer between burnishings. Mine were made from a 50+ year old hand saw. I believe the older steel is probably better.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:33 pm 
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Todd Stock wrote:
That's exactly what I did until L-N started making scrapers, Woody - old saws are a lot cheaper than the LN, and they cut just fine with a bimetal hack saw. Still use them for old-shaped stuff versus cutting up $8 scrapers.


I've got access to a plasma cutter. This makes it easy to make scrapers. wow7-eyes

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I believe Bacho is owned by Sandvik, or perhaps it is the other way around? Over here, Sandvik and Bacho are two of the most common hardware store brands, and at least there must be some connection between companys, because I see many identical tools labeled with either name. Lately I've seen more Bacho scrapers than Sandvik... I bet they are exactly the same, so you might have better luck finding Bacho.

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i have an old Sandvik scraper that i use. I also bought a two cherries scrapper and it of great quality.
http://www.amazon.com/Cherries-520-5750-Scraper-Prepared-Edges/dp/B000JRDLP0


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There is no better steel than 1095 spring steel for scrapers. You can buy blue spring steel in small amounts,and in different thicknesses from MSC co.

It is listed at 52 R.C.,which is still fileable,but a good deal harder than any old saws you are going to find,unless they are 100 years old.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:20 pm 
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I believe Lee Valley has them.

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I have used Sandvik scrapers for years. One of my favorite tools.


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My current fav scraper is not a scraper at all .. its a too narrow for use jointer blade, held in a shopmade wooden holder. I recently found out that it sharpens quickly with the LV orange carbide knife sharpener .. simply draw it thru the carbides, and voila - there is no burr per se, but it shaves like it had one. This thing will scrape anything, and because its a 1/8 inch thick blade, it doesnt flex .. absolutely great for flattening sides before routing for binding, and then levelling the binding afterwards. I just levelled a coco body last week .. it took all of ten minutes to do the whole body.

One of my students and I got these from our local wood shop for free, because they were all too short to sit in the jointer and reach the table . they had all been sharpened too many times.

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Thank you Filippo. I was just going to ask if Tony might be kind enough to show a few pictures. But I have a feeling is looks something like this. The picture is one offered at Woodcraft.


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Jody, Lee Valley carries them.
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=32671&cat=1,310,41069&ap=1

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you people are so demanding ......

its way simple .. a scrap of walnut with a slot cut on the table saw to the right depth for the blade to still stick out ... a shim in there too because the blade is thinner than my TS blade, and small screws to hold it all in.

LV also sells a small knife sharpener .. orange plastic, small carbide sharpeners at one end .. 16 bucks. Its amazing not only on knives, but this jointer knife too ... there is no burr like a typical scraper has .. its just sharp .. use it, and the shavings pile up ....and your thumb doesnt start to burn ... beauty.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:11 pm 
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Thanks for all the help , everyone. Jody


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hello everyone does anyone have a pic or link to those Lee valley /veritas orange carbide knife sharpeners
ive been looking for them on their website and through google but could not find any
is there any other good ones that gets similar results ? or even a homemade version ?
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I just went to the site .. number is 70M46.50 (searched on sharpening, it was on the 6th page).

I initally bought this on the recommendation of the store sharpening guru. who said it was the best simple sharpener they had ... better than the four wheel stone type thats about 35 bucks ... took it home and in a matter of minutes had a Henkl paring knife we have had for about 20 years that I couldnt seem to get really sharp with a diamond hone slicing wafer thin tomato slices, then proceeded to sharpen all the other duller knives we had in the block ... this thing works great. Cutting up veggies is almost enjoyable !!!!

decided to try it on the jointer knife scraper I made (above), and it was awesome. 16 bucks, 4 edges, lifetime warranty.

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I wish I knew. A friend gave me mine. Absolutely, my favorite tool.

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thanks very much Tony
i was trapped in the google desert for ages
im off to get one of those carbide sharpeners
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enalnitram wrote:
I wish I knew. A friend gave me mine. Absolutely, my favorite tool.


Tomas - Lee Valley carries them.
From their website:
"Some woodworkers hold that a Bahco (formerly Sandvik) scraper outperforms other Swedish scrapers. The Bahco scraper is 2-3/8" x 5-7/8" long and 0.8mm (0.032") thick. Rc48-52. Sleeve included."

http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=32671&cat=1,310,41069&ap=1

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+1 on the Lie Nielsens. They are great, right out of the package. Hold a burr really well.

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