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 Post subject: turnbuckle
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:26 am 
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I have seen turnbuckle used as expander while the guitar is in construction. But the turnbuckle I can find in Taiwan are reverse threaded, that means one end is threaded the right way and the other end is threaded the opposite direction... so turning the turnbuckle does nothing to change the length of the whole assembly... or is there a correct way to use them?

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 Post subject: Re: turnbuckle
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That's how my turnbuckles are. If one of the threads wasn't reversed the bolts wouldn't extend. Just grab one and turn the center piece counter clockwise while holding the ends and they'll each thread outward.

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 Post subject: Re: turnbuckle
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:18 am 
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I should say turn the center piece counter clockwise with the reversed thread towards you and they will extend.

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 Post subject: Re: turnbuckle
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:35 am 
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If you don't mind me asking on your thread, Tai, I have been wanting to get some "turnbuckles" in the UK- I'd be really grateful if somebody could tell me where I get can them in the UK, and what the UK equivelent term is- as usually a lot of US tools have different names here.

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 Post subject: Re: turnbuckle
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I am afraid I can't really answer that... I never been to the UK

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 Post subject: Re: turnbuckle
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:03 am 
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Todd Stock wrote:
You could try looking for a rigging screw - common alternative term for a turnbuckle used by sailors in the UK. I have no idea if the usage is as common outside the marine industry, but worth a shot.


That's the stuff. Rigging Screw. Thanks, Todd!! :)


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 Post subject: Re: turnbuckle
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Sam you can get them at any fencing suppliers. These were about £1 each.

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 Post subject: Re: turnbuckle
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Tai Fu wrote:
I have seen turnbuckle used as expander while the guitar is in construction. But the turnbuckle I can find in Taiwan are reverse threaded, that means one end is threaded the right way and the other end is threaded the opposite direction... so turning the turnbuckle does nothing to change the length of the whole assembly... or is there a correct way to use them?


That is precisely how turnbuckles are made. It there was not one reverse thread, the thing would never work. You turn the block, not the bolts to expand them.

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 Post subject: Re: turnbuckle
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:11 am 
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There is a cheaper way also. I have used threaded rod with washers and wing nuts instead.Works just as good.


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 Post subject: Re: turnbuckle
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:21 am 
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Yea but turnbuckles are cheaper compared to wing nuts... wing nuts are expensive here. Plus right now I am using tube and threaded rod and wing nuts and the whole assembly is too shaky. I need something more solid.

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 Post subject: Re: turnbuckle
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If your form is good and solid, i don't see how it would be shakey.All the threaded rod does is push the sides into the form.Mabey your rod is too thin.I use 3/8 rod and it solid as a rock.Wing nuts are cheaper here,that's why i use this method instead. I'm just showing another approch to those interested or those that are haveing a hard time getting turnbuckles. :)


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 Post subject: Re: turnbuckle
PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:06 am 
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Grief! Tai, PayPal me the money for 4 Lowes turn buckles and shipping and I will gladly send them to you. I believe a turnbuckle with an added long bolt is about $5 US. $20 plus shipping is my guess. You should get at least 4. My zip is 35763... figure the shipping and I will do it.

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 Post subject: Re: turnbuckle
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Mike O'Melia wrote:
Grief! Tai, PayPal me the money for 4 Lowes turn buckles and shipping and I will gladly send them to you. I believe a turnbuckle with an added long bolt is about $5 US. $20 plus shipping is my guess. You should get at least 4. My zip is 35763... figure the shipping and I will do it.

Mike



Thanks for the offer. I can find turnbuckles here I think I can make it work.

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 Post subject: Re: turnbuckle
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Colin S wrote:
Sam you can get them at any fencing suppliers. These were about £1 each.

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Thanks Colin, I'll try my friendly local Countrywide store tommorow. :)


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 Post subject: Re: turnbuckle
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Sam, if you can't find them let me know and I'll get some and send them to you.

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 Post subject: Re: turnbuckle
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:04 am 
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Colin S wrote:
Sam, if you can't find them let me know and I'll get some and send them to you.

Colin


Colin, I bought some today and they were slightly more expensive than what you paid... :?

For the record (and the archives) they are called fencing barrel strainers in the UK...


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 Post subject: Re: turnbuckle
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Well, that makes sense :?: :D

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 Post subject: Re: turnbuckle
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WaddyThomson wrote:
Well, that makes sense :?: :D


Oh, we love verbosity here in the UK. You lot are so direct with your concrete nouns....


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 Post subject: Re: turnbuckle
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Yeah, Sam, I would have called them "Fencing Collapse Restrainers". laughing6-hehe My wife says I shouldn't laugh at my own jokes, but no one else will, so why not? :D

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Sam Price wrote:
Colin S wrote:
Sam, if you can't find them let me know and I'll get some and send them to you.

Colin


Colin, I bought some today and they were slightly more expensive than what you paid... :?

For the record (and the archives) they are called fencing barrel strainers in the UK...


Sam glad you got them, don't forget that I'm a very old man, so probably bought them in the last century, when beer was only 2d a pint.

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Colin S wrote:
Sam Price wrote:
Colin S wrote:
Sam, if you can't find them let me know and I'll get some and send them to you.

Colin


Colin, I bought some today and they were slightly more expensive than what you paid... :?

For the record (and the archives) they are called fencing barrel strainers in the UK...


Sam glad you got them, don't forget that I'm a very old man, so probably bought them in the last century, when beer was only 2d a pint.

Colin


Now now, Colin. I have never considered you "old"...only mature.

We should catch up some time, seeing as my interests have diverted from trajectory to luthiery.

That should keep you guessing (for a second or two at least!).

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