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 Post subject: Logo Techniques
PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:55 pm 
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I am currently having my logo art work done. I have almost settled on the final cut. I am thinking of having someone laser cut the logo and the negative in the peghead. I was also wondering about negative engraving on the peghead and filling with some kind of material that starts off as a liquid and hardens (like epoxy.) I want something that I can vary color, content (speckle?) and so on, and then sand down to a flat, flush surface with minimal if no shrinkage.

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 Post subject: Re: Logo Techniques
PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:53 am 
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When I am not using pearl, I have done exactly that.
I have used brass powder, silver powder and other colored powders mixed in epoxy.
Works fine. It also works by packing it in and wicking in thin CA

I use Douglas and Sturgess powders
http://www.artstuf.com/DStockNEW.fm$FIND?catsearch=AMP&header=CatHead&footer=CatFoot&html=CatShelf&sort=SKU

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 Post subject: Re: Logo Techniques
PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:57 am 
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You say colored powders... where do you get these? And, is there a particular brand of epoxy you prefer?

Thanks Andy,

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 Post subject: Re: Logo Techniques
PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:03 am 
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The colored powders I have used are Jacquard products.
You have to practice a bit to get a feel for how much powder and how much epoxy.
I have always used West Systems Epoxy. I have a large bottle of the resin and 205 and 206 hardeners
You can also use polyester resins.
http://www.jacquardproducts.com/products/pearlex/

They are available in small jar sets. A lot of craft stores have them. If not check the site above and order online

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 Post subject: Re: Logo Techniques
PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:08 am 
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If you're getting stuff laser cut then wood and plastic look good, shell does not. Lasers tend to make a mess of shell.

If you're looking for some interesting textures, and you've got access to a laser, then another option besides pigmenting resins is getting textured plastics like Corian ( http://www.coriansamples.com/prostores/servlet/StoreFront ) or some of the textured acrylics from Acrilex ( http://acrilex.com/index.cfm )

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 Post subject: Re: Logo Techniques
PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:44 am 
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If you're looking for more traditional colored pigments(i.e. no pearl) try:
http://www.sinopia.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=2
I've used them several times w/ epoxy; it doesn't seem to affect the hardness or curing time.

In an unrelated topic, they also sell fish glue in the "Binders" section

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 Post subject: Re: Logo Techniques
PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:59 pm 
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Check out a product called Inlace. It looks like what you're after. Haven't used it myself, but I do have a friend with a laser, and am contemplating it for future projects.

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