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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:55 pm 
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Location: Philadelphia, USA
First name: Michael
Last Name: Shaw
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woody b wrote:
Enough about neck joints, Let's talk about glue beehive

Oh! Thats and easy choice. Gorilla glue all around. ;)


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 5:10 pm 
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Dennis Leahy wrote:
keys1 wrote:
...Did anyone see the prevues of the up coming "Shark Tank"? A guy put a hinge on the fingerboard of an acoustic guitar so the neck could be folded forward across the guitar and be carried or packed easier. I couldn't believe it when I caught the five second glimpse.
cheers

That would be Harvey Leach's "Voyage Air", right?

Dennis


The best part, well maybe not the best part, but maybe the most amazing part, is that you don't even have to detune the voyager air to fold it up.

I was surprised to feel how little force it actually took to put the neck back in positon with the strings still around tuning tension


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:49 pm 
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It's just common sense that a dovetail joint takes a higher degree of skill and practice to
get good at. With its multiple surfaces and angles to consider and the mechanical nature
of the joint that must be achieved by the builder as he fits it properly, the joint is simply
more complexed.

After a few decades of doing repairs for individuals and as a warranty repair person for
all of the major makers, there's no doubt about the difference in the joints and the level
of skill needed to successfully achieve either.

I use a mortise and tenon joint with a single bolt just because it's a quicker and easier
joint to perfect. I love a traditional dovetail, but have released what was a white knuckled grip
on tradition after realizing that it was for tradition's sake only. The technology wasn't available
for the builders of old to use the joints that we are capable of now....If it had been, they would
have used it and abandoned the dovetail a century ago.

Anyone with any experience with both joints will tell you that it does, in fact take more
time and effort to achieve a good and correct dovetail joint. Those who'd say that the two are
equally easy or have the same learning curve for a craftsman obvously have little to no real
experience with both.

Regards,
Kevin Gallagher/Omega Guitars


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:50 pm 
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Location: Los Osos CA
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-whether the rough work is cut w/ a router (reeeee....), table saw, hand saw or adze,
fitting the single dovetail joint in its requisite three planes is a significant and satisfying task. CW


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