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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:05 pm 
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That bar does look rather tasty, does it not? :D

I am leaning towards that Diablo... 0.06" kerf is not bad at all. The bandsaw blades I have looked at (smaller ones) have the teeth going side to side. I assume this is to assist with clearing the dust. The lower TPIs seem to be on the bigger blades and those teeth are normally aligned with the blade. I was a bit concerned that the smaller blades would put lateral forces on the bar that could cause breakage at glue joints. I have a few highend (small) Laguna blades at home, I will check them out.

Every repeating pattern block has 30-plus glue joints. It has been quite a challenge getting to this stage.

Regardless of which saw I use, a zero clearance insert is a must.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:50 pm 
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Filippo Morelli wrote:
Hey Mike I have an idea - how about you be the first one on the OLF to buy a Jointmaker Pro? I mean, it's $1,200, but I'm sure you'll find other uses for it in building guitars (and we'd like to know what they are, so we can live vicariously through your experiences). As for the twelve hundo, rest assured the kerf savings on the $200 Taj Mah Purfling will only be the first of many savings! pizza

Filippo

(p.s. Let us know what you actually plan to do ...)


Well, not going to use the JointMaker Pro, I bet it is worthless for doing long pieces. I will be getting one of those diablo blades however.

What I have decided to do is use my 4 tpi, 3/8", (0.03") kerf bandsaw blade from Laguna. Its not a resaw blade in that is does have some tip deflection side to side. But it is very small. I fashioned a zero clearance insert for the bandsaw. I also glued a strip of 0.02 black fiber to the side, so I will be ready to cut tonight. As nothing much has gone according to plan on this sub-project, I doubt tonight will be any different. But here is to hoping!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:12 pm 
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Well. most everything came out just fine! The luguna blade did an excellent job, and cut a very smooth surface. Of course, I spent some time getting the driftmaster fence set up just so...

However. like I said, I was certain to learn something and I did. Never let a delicate purfling bar hang over the edge of the cutting table. gaah

All is well and was easily repaired.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:46 pm 
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Bob Garrish wrote:
Best economy would be a waterjet, but I'm going to bet that's not on your list of options under consideration. The waterjet could come out at a clean cut with a 0.02-0.03 kerf. You could get close to that, 0.03-0.04" clean, on a CNC mill with a properly set up slitting saw blade. Laser probably isn't suitable; it might be able to blow through but you'd have some crispy burnt edges.

The 'thin kerf' tablesaw blades are huge by comparison to bandsaw blades. I might have missed something, but the thinnest blade I saw from Freud was still in the 80-thou range which is more than one strip turned to sawdust for each you yield. I know you can get a fine finish at just a bit over 0.04" with Laguna's high end bandsaw blades, and I assume you can match that with something Lenox makes. If you use a power feed, you can get a truly smooth finish from a bandsaw with half the losses of a table saw. The bandsaw is harder to set up optimally, but a 1" cut isn't demanding.


The Diablo 7 1/4" are around .055" thickness. At least the ones I have.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:13 pm 
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U r correct, that diablo finishing blade is .059, but still 0.03" bigger than my laguna bs blade. That purfling bar has well over $200 invested in it, kerf matters here! More importantly, the laguna blade cut with at least a 220 finish. I was amazed. I did not have to finish the cut side, just glued another 0.02" fiber sheet to it. Cut was 0.1".


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:14 pm 
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U r correct, that diablo finishing blade is .059, but still 0.03" bigger than my laguna bs blade. That purfling bar has well over $200 invested in it, kerf matters here! More importantly, the laguna blade cut with at least a 220 finish. I was amazed. I did not have to finish the cut side, just glued another 0.02" fiber sheet to it. Cut was 0.1".


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I'm glad it cut well for you Mike. I'm looking forward to seeing what you do with that candy cane. :D

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