Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Wed Jul 23, 2025 7:53 pm


All times are UTC - 5 hours


Forum rules


Be nice, no cussin and enjoy!




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 60 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:22 am 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:59 pm
Posts: 2103
Location: Bucharest, Romania
Country: Romania
Focus: Build
Status: Professional
The scraping contraption is way cool! It must be useful if cutting for binding by hand too.

_________________
Build log


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:59 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:46 pm
Posts: 667
First name: Robert
Last Name: Renick
City: Mount Shasta
State: ca
Zip/Postal Code: 96067
Country: us
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Currently at the mercy of nature in my garage shop, 10 days of rain and snow, just as I was getting ready to glue it all up, so I took the advice from Cumpiano, do something else. I got some stuff from Hafele on close out, drawer slides, 28" $9, and a cool TV pullout turntable, $2, ordered 2 cause they were so cheap, but I don't think it will work for the binding jig. Pictures of the dwindling list that is keeping me going as I wait on the weather, binding jig drawer boxes that Tim Taylor would appreciate, 28" slides, grunt grunt grunt, and my carved Port Orford back, that came out too nice for this guitar #1, so I may look for some cheaper POC and save this for the next one, this one is 3 pieces, 50 grains per inch, and at .27-.31 thickness, it taps like a gong. A few worm holes to fix though. Very exciting to see this guitar getting done with all the jigs getting made, so the next ones will be get easier as they should.
Rob


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

_________________
http://shastaguitar.com/
http://www.kalimbakit.com/
http://www.youtube.com/user/comfyfootgr ... ature=mhee
http://www.facebook.com/robert.renick.7


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:10 am 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:46 pm
Posts: 667
First name: Robert
Last Name: Renick
City: Mount Shasta
State: ca
Zip/Postal Code: 96067
Country: us
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Dave,
Your pictures of your top just sent me in a tizzy, "oh no, my tone bars are on the wrong side, how did I get it wrong, how do I correct this, how did I do this, ahhhhhhhh!"
Then right before total panic, I noticed that your tone bars are coming off the bass side, what is experience and reasoning with this change? Looks great, I like that rosette and how clean it all is.
Rob

_________________
http://shastaguitar.com/
http://www.kalimbakit.com/
http://www.youtube.com/user/comfyfootgr ... ature=mhee
http://www.facebook.com/robert.renick.7


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 11:35 am 
Offline
Old Growth Brazilian Rosewood
Old Growth Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:49 am
Posts: 13631
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
First name: Hesh
Last Name: Breakstone
City: Ann Arbor
State: Michigan
Country: United States
Status: Professional
Rob buddy that TV pull-out slide and swivel would work great for your go-bar deck if it has the weight capacity to handle the deck and all the things that you use in our decks. This is how I set-up my go-bar deck and it makes access from all sides a breeze!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:08 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo

Joined: Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:39 pm
Posts: 210
Hesh wrote:
Rob buddy that TV pull-out slide and swivel would work great for your go-bar deck [...]

I automatically thought Rob bought that item for this purpose and I was tempted to suggest him to use the second one for his TV! laughing6-hehe

Some time ago I made a turntable for my go-bar deck (without pull-out facility), and only the the arbor (axis) cost me about the same as Rob payd for the whole TV pull-out slide! :lol:
Tremendous bargain, Rob! [:Y:]


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:19 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:46 pm
Posts: 667
First name: Robert
Last Name: Renick
City: Mount Shasta
State: ca
Zip/Postal Code: 96067
Country: us
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
I took the chance on the turntable slide things based on Hesh's pictures of his version, figured if it was not quite right for the binding jig that I would use it for the go bar deck, which looks like I will, then the second one, I am sure that there is some other jig that it can work with. It is pretty heavy duty, but the turntable is not a ball bearing, but a spindle with friction pads in between the plates, so it will be fine with a load directly on top, but it will have some flex if used for a binding jig. Shipping was $30 for the 2, so they ended up being about $16 each, which is fine. I have a 1000# 12" lazy susan on the way to finish the jig, the too long drawer slides, seem stiff enough in the range that they will be used, but at full extension, there is some slop. Thanks for the inspiration Hesh on the use of the rotating TV slide.
Hafele still has some of these in their close out section, as well as some similar products.
Rob

_________________
http://shastaguitar.com/
http://www.kalimbakit.com/
http://www.youtube.com/user/comfyfootgr ... ature=mhee
http://www.facebook.com/robert.renick.7


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:54 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:14 am
Posts: 819
First name: Tim
Last Name: Lynch
City: Santa Cruz
Zip/Postal Code: 95060
Country: United States
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
I've got one box sitting in a case waiting to be bound and finished.

Panama Rosewood and an Adi top.

Attachment:
topweb.jpg


Attachment:
rosweb1.jpg


Attachment:
sideweb.jpg


Attachment:
bkweb.jpg


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:59 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:14 am
Posts: 819
First name: Tim
Last Name: Lynch
City: Santa Cruz
Zip/Postal Code: 95060
Country: United States
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
And a second that I started a couple of weeks ago hoping to capitalize on the drier weather, but then it rained. If it dries out a bit here in Santa Cruz I am hoping to slap the braces on the back tomorrow. In the meantime I can finish the rosette and rims.

Koa back, redwood top with a bit of a wedge in the 000-12 fret body

Attachment:
redweb.jpg


Attachment:
koaweb.jpg


Attachment:
webwedge.jpg


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 6:52 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:43 am
Posts: 601
Location: Bozeman, Montana
Focus: Build
Ready for tentellones! After building guitars several different ways, the old methods make a lot more sense. Building this way with a solera makes it very easy to have perfect alignment and top placement.


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

_________________
http://www.booneguitars.com
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Stephen-Boone-guitar-builder/488208541257210


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:04 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:43 am
Posts: 601
Location: Bozeman, Montana
Focus: Build
This is another guitar that is in final stages of French polish. It is looking pretty good. This guitar is going to Oregon to a customer there.


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

_________________
http://www.booneguitars.com
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Stephen-Boone-guitar-builder/488208541257210


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:31 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:29 am
Posts: 1384
Location: United States
Stephen, that looks great. I love the sheen of french polish, it is a little different than everything else and I like it! I wish I could do it more. Maybe I should switch to nylon strings.

I have a mess in my shop right now, I was hurrying to get a guitar out to Joe and it is finally there. here is the headstock:

Attachment:
cl17-headstock.jpg


The back is some Madagascar Rosewood. This is a 6 piece back made from regular fingerboards. I got a bunch that were similar enough and I don't believe anyone could find the seams. I like how it came out a lot. I thinned the back to where I thought I was good but I should have gone further, I ended up really having to dig in with the ROS to get the back down close to the top frequency.

Attachment:
cl17-back.jpg


Next up for me is a lot of catching up on other projects, I have a crack to fix in an early instrument and then the real fun begins on my sonic sitka guitar for Montreal. I also am sooo close to firing up my walker Turner jointer restoration. I had to level the beds by hand which took forever. All that is left is wiring the motor and setting up the pulleys. I can't wait.

It is always great to see everyone's work, I love these threads!


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

_________________
Burton
http://www.legeytinstruments.com
Brookline, MA.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 12:53 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:45 pm
Posts: 4337
Location: United States
[quote="Tim L"]I've got one box sitting in a case waiting to be bound and finished.

Panama Rosewood and an Adi top.

Attachment:
rosweb1.jpg


Tim, I really like this rosette. Nice composition, pleasing balance.
Did you cut the pearl diamonds yourself?

Steve

_________________
From Nacogdoches...the oldest town in Texas.

http://www.stephenkinnaird.com


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:45 am 
Offline
Old Growth Brazilian Rosewood
Old Growth Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:49 am
Posts: 13631
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
First name: Hesh
Last Name: Breakstone
City: Ann Arbor
State: Michigan
Country: United States
Status: Professional
Stephen B. your shop looks as clean as mine... :D

Attachment:
newGHKSeallogo-de.jpg


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 12:22 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:14 am
Posts: 819
First name: Tim
Last Name: Lynch
City: Santa Cruz
Zip/Postal Code: 95060
Country: United States
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Quote:
Did you cut the pearl diamonds yourself?


Steve, No I bought the strips from JoAnne at Rescue pearl. After I finished this rosette I tried to go back and buy another set but she had just sold the last three sets to someone. Wish I was able to cut and set things that small but right now I am hoping she can come up with some more sets. Thanks for the compliment on the rosette. Thinking of putting herringbone purfinlg on the top to set it off.

Burton, I like the looks of the MadRose back. Six piece is pretty daring IMHO. Are you using any kind of a support strip on the inside? And what king of glue do you use when joining? I have a few sets for 4 pc. backs that I bought from Gilmer several years ago that are similar to what you have in the Swapa. One is split and stickered and I am hoping to get to it next year ( I'm really slow ).

Stephen, Nice looking FP job you have done on that classical.

Tim


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 12:35 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:59 pm
Posts: 2103
Location: Bucharest, Romania
Country: Romania
Focus: Build
Status: Professional
I'm getting ready for binding on my 7th. Pic shows the strips and bundles for the top. I closed this up in just about 3 weeks, I am impressed with myself :D

Also my 6th is undergoing FP.

Image

Image


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

_________________
Build log


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:23 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Sat May 17, 2008 1:11 pm
Posts: 2390
Location: Spokane, Washington
First name: Pat
Last Name: Foster
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Wow. Good stuff here!

This is an L-00 that's been going slowly.... but surely!

Attachment:
DSCN1103.jpg



Pat


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

_________________
formerly known around here as burbank
_________________

http://www.patfosterguitars.com


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:29 pm 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo

Joined: Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:41 am
Posts: 223
Location: Naugatuck, CT
Lots of stuff going on at Warren guitars. Just finished a couple pickguards for these Ibanez RGs. The blue one got EMGs and a new white guard to replace the stock clear one, and a black one for a refinish job. Making progress finally on my Explorer build, and a my first official commission, a koa baritone Uke is coming along nicely.

Attachment:
DSCF1747.JPG


Attachment:
DSCF1748.JPG


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

_________________
Rob


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:25 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:45 pm
Posts: 4337
Location: United States
Dave Fifield wrote:
I made a new rosette (using coco offcuts from the b/s) that has more segments than before (was 16, now 24)....I think it looks much better. The top is done now.
Cheers,
Dave F.


Dave, must not leave you out, mate, because that rosette looks fabulous. Or as you Brits would say, it's brilliant.
Nice work.

Steve

_________________
From Nacogdoches...the oldest town in Texas.

http://www.stephenkinnaird.com


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:32 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:34 pm
Posts: 1073
First name: Rob
Last Name: McDougall
City: Cochrane
State: Alberta
Dave Fifield wrote:
Some very nice looking OM's above..... [:Y:] [clap] [:Y:] [clap] [:Y:]

I made a new rosette (using coco offcuts from the b/s) that has more segments than before (was 16, now 24)....I think it looks much better. The top is done now. Here are a couple of shots of where things are right now:

Cheers,
Dave F.


Dave - that is the nicest radial rosette I have ever seen - does not look "segmented" at all - well done!!!! (inspirational)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:56 am 
Offline
Cocobolo
Cocobolo
User avatar

Joined: Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:18 pm
Posts: 292
First name: Chris
Last Name: Wood
City: Chester Springs
State: PA
Zip/Postal Code: 19425
Country: USA
Focus: Build
Status: Semi-pro
Everybody is doing fantastic work, as usual. Over the weekend I closed the box on #4, quilted mahogany and sitka.

Image

Image

In addition talked with Joe White about #3, which is almost ready to come home. I'm anxious to get this one put together and hear it.

Image

Image

Chris.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:36 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Sat Aug 25, 2007 2:05 am
Posts: 685
Location: Saint Petersburg, Florida
First name: Glenn
Last Name: LaSalle
City: Saint Petersburg
State: Florida
Status: Amateur
I closed the box to my Jumbo PS (my take on a 1930's Larson Brothers Prairie State) to go along with the L-00 I closed last week. I have Mad RW already bent (I bent them at same time I bent sides), and will next work on routing out the binding/purfling channels.
Glenn
Attachment:
P1060968.JPG

Attachment:
P1060967.JPG


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:36 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:29 am
Posts: 1384
Location: United States
Tim,

I'm agreeing with Steve, your rosette does look good!

I am not that nervous about the multi piece backs. The 6 pcs. is really a 4 pc with 1 inch wings for the lower bout, not much danger there I feel. I am not backing up the other joints (except the center seam, and that is a brace for me). I trust the Smith all wood epoxy for those joints, especially for the rosewoods. I think LMI used their white glue and I have not heard about any failures with that for the Madagascar Rosewood. I like the tape method to join them with the epoxy, you have more than enough time to fidget with the plates to get them to line up perfectly (especially if they are thin to begin with) and there is not too much risk of overclamping the epoxy. I have a bunch of wood from Gilmer too and after this worked so well I may see if I can make a few more back sets from matched regular FB's and use the 4 x 30's for sides.

_________________
Burton
http://www.legeytinstruments.com
Brookline, MA.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:38 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:59 pm
Posts: 2103
Location: Bucharest, Romania
Country: Romania
Focus: Build
Status: Professional
Burton, here is a 2 piece back I turned into a 4 piece a while ago by cutting out the flatsawn center. I hate flatsawn rw. Also outer pieces were flipped as to move the better quartering towards the center. I will try a slightly smaller guitar shape for it, or perhaps wing it or use decorative inlay between quarters too for a full size.


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

_________________
Build log


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:21 pm 
Offline
Brazilian Rosewood
Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:58 am
Posts: 2774
Location: Tampa, Florida USA
I finished up a 1935 National Triolian polychrome paint job . And then got back to my sloped shoulder dred. Finished the top binding and purf and end graft.


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:20 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Sat Nov 08, 2008 3:57 pm
Posts: 775
Location: Powell River BC Canada
First name: Daniel
Last Name: Minard
City: Powell River
State: BC
Country: Canada
I am always amazed at the quality (and quantity) of work shown here! Great stuff, Folks!

Chris; Clever way to deal with the binding / purfling on the arm rest. If you don't mind, I would like to try something similar. (When I get my courage up!) Looks like a less complicated way to deal with the issue, while still being very attractive. Love the "high bling" rosette too!
Cheers, y'all. Lots of remarkable work goin' on.
Dan
One of these days I'm gonna get the picture posting thing organized!


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 60 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 26 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com