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I'm not a car guy but I get your point. So if the cold start plugs and the race engine are so much trouble why do the race cars use them instead of a street engine?



If one tire slightly slopes towards the back and the other slopes in the other direction the blade will be in a constant twist as it travels between wheels. You assume your tires are in alignment. When you adjust tracking doesn't that change the slope of the top wheel? Think about this.


Paper test on mine when stationary. When I fired mine up there are 8 side bearings. They would whisp around from time to time, when there was no load. Not all eight mind you. So pretty darn close. I ran mine with gullets just forward ... standard stuff.[/quote]

That is fine when stationary. But we don't cut wood with a stationary blade. Under load are any of the bearings spinning?

I don't recall them getting hot. But I can not tell you that with 100% certainty. Maybe others can.[/quote]

If the bearings are hot so is the blade.

Ditto. It had to be hot, though, as it bogged a 2.5HP motor as it dulled. Recall I only got 2" in. By the finger test I'd say the blades are dull - I can rub my forefinger on the blade edge with no concern of getting cut. [/quote]

If the blade gets hot it will get dull very quickly.



I think June is about when they changed to the new style. Maybe you got the old stock. The new blades are thinner, can you measure the thickness of your blade?

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Laguna quoted me $216 for 125" Resaw King for their 14" BS. I can buy a same sized Tri-Master significantly less than $200. So I am missing something here.

Filippo the $75 price suggests that was the old band stock that Laguna was offering a deal on.

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They lie!! Why would they sell a $225 blade for $75?

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So Filipo,
What's your toy driver?
Mine's a '74 911S Targa. The 2.7 isn't the best engineering to come from ol' Ferdinand's shed, but with certs and a reasonable driving style it's frisky enough.
-C

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Because it's stock from china and the blades only cost em $50.00!
I don't really know that but that what this make it sound like.

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This was the $75 deal posted by Tim Lory on various forums in Dec 2009 and into 2010

CONTACT: 949.474.1200 ext.9617


Hi Guys: As promised I have something new.
Due to the amazing amount of response I received from the last offer for our Kerf King Style Carbide Bandsaw Blade (we sold them all), Torben has authorized me to offer this blade at the same price. So here is another outstanding offer for SMC.
This Resaw King blade on offer is the past iteration of what is now our current generation of Resaw King blades (If you ordered a Resaw King four years ago, this is what you would have received); they are in perfect condition and the cut quality Zs second to none.
Specs for this blade are - 1" x .055" kerf x 3 tpi approx. - I will size the blade to fit any saw up to 180" at the single blade price of $75; larger sizes will require a second blade purchase.
This blade is also resharpenable through our standard Resaw King resharpening process at Laguna, generally good for four or five sharpenings.
I have several coils, so let’s get ‘em sold. To order, you can either PM me through SMC. Or call Tim at his office at (800) 234-1976, ext. 9617.
Thanks!

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Totally by trial and error and experimentation. No the first RK blades did not work well, I had the same problems as described here. I spent a few years ignoring the RK blades because I did not want the frustration. Then I decided that the blades must be good and I must be a bad saw operator.
We probably spent 3 days trying different adjustments until suddenly the blades started cutting perfectly. Then we spent another 2 days trying to figure what we did to make it happen.



I'm sure there is. I'm not claiming to have any particular magic setup I'm just pointing out that if things are set right the blades will cut beautifully.



I have only used the 1.25".



I'm not a machine person. I hate working on and adjusting machines. I just want to cut wood. BUT I love to learn new tricks and I'm might be pretty close to being an old dog also.

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I think the blades dull quickly in the situations you describe because they overheat. If the bearings hold the blade in the necessary alignment and are not heating up then they are not likely the problem.
If the alignment is perfect enough then the issue will be from an outside force.
There are other issues at play that go beyond the alignment.
More tomorrow.

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Top blade 1" x 150" x .022 16HD 4.5 hp Baldor Motor
Middle blade 1" x 150" x .022 " "
Bottom blade 2" x 180" x .032 for Laguna horizontal bandsaw Main motor: 30HP 220 volt 3 phase

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I'm getting tired of this thread.

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Hi, sounds perhaps stupid, but I bet if you "grind" away every second teeth of the RK and lower in this way the TPI they would work perhaps fine. The RK have a too high TPI in my opinion. The same with table-saw blades: If you take a fine blade for clean cross-grain cuts and try to make cuts with the grain, you get a nice surface, clean cut, but the blade overheats fast and then the problems start. I never understood why Laguna is promoting a band with such a high TPI for resawing high stock. This was the only reason I went for the CT and not for the RK. Of course I would like to have the thinner Kerf and the better surface, but I really belive the RK have a too high TPI to perform good in EVERY situation, like really difficult wood.

best regards, alex

Yes it's a kerfmaster. Didn't matter though. Still doesn't cut worth a sh*% This problem has existed for years that I know of. Bought my first RK blade probably 7-8 years ago. Man what a glutton for punishment. I always held out that hope that I was doing something wrong. Would think my setup through and order another blade or 2 . I just cut some .750 thick ovangol on the Horizontal saw with a 1" Woodmaster CT blade got four nice slices at around .140+ with relative ease. That's good enough for me.

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Amen!!! This is the most meaningful statement I've read in the past 6 pages!

I really don't know enough about resawing to add to the body of knowledge. But I started reading this from the first and soon determined that I would never buy a Laguna blade. Why...because the Zootman clearly stated years ago that he abandoned these blades and settled on one that is much better suited for the types of woods used by guitar makers. He agreed with Filippo and re-stated this within the first 2 pages and reiterated his rationale...and Todd also agreed. That's enough for me.

And the rest of the thread has been nothing more than an emotional pissing contest between Laguna blade lovers and haters...no different than Ford vs Chevy...Martin vs Taylor...Bears vs Packers (go Bears!)...Jefferson vs. Marx...Palestinians vs Israelis, etc., etc., etc!!!

As an aside...in my opinion, there are but a handful of threads that are significantly informative beyond 3 pages...too much and the topic begins to become repetitive and the atmosphere becomes rancid.

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GO BILLS

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"I want to know what kind of pickups Vince Gill uses in his Tele, because if I had those, as good of a player as I am, I'm sure I could make it sound like that.
Only badly."

Chicken wings are still great here and so far so are the Bills. Watching the game now.

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How's the game going Bob?

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"I want to know what kind of pickups Vince Gill uses in his Tele, because if I had those, as good of a player as I am, I'm sure I could make it sound like that.
Only badly."

I went to Buffalo once to look at a machine I wanted to buy and the salesman took me to the place noted for inventing "Buffalo chicken wings". Can't remember the name of the place. I haven't ever tasted anything that remotely approximated them since. Nothing on the west coast called "Buffalo chicken wings" can hold a candle to the original.

However, good chicken wings are the ONLY reason to go to Buffalo....maybe Niagra Falls...provided you can get there. I went there in the dead of winter and it didn't take me 15 minutes off the plane to realize why half the town is empty. I'm originally from L.A. and I'll concede we're a little soft out there...weather-wise...but winter in Buffalo is just unbearable.

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I read Emerson on the can. A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds...true...but a consistent reading of Emerson has its uses nevertheless.

StuMusic

Football and Chicken wings...after 2,500 hists, sounds like this thread is finally winding down.

Say it aint so...common Filippo... me bet there still be some viss and pinegar in you regarding Laguana blades.

Lets all see if we can get this thread over 3,000 hits. The sponsors pay by the number of hits a site gets and well me hear tell Lance could use the extra spending $.


blessings
Padma

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No time for sports, I'm going to go slice some wood.

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Pretty good Don.

BILLS 34 PATSY"S 31

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The Anchor Bar

Most folks from LA are sissy's North Pole is unbearable. Buffalo is balmy. It's 81 right now. Bright sun shining on the BILLS

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Don...... Hey Don.......................O DONALD....................

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Congrats to the Bills...I can only hope that OJ and his latest squeeze were watching the game together!

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