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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:25 pm 
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I make about 3 or 4 nuts a week for the last 35 years and I use a jewlers saw for string 1 and 2 on electrics and steel strings then (you won't believe this) I cut the other notches with the same hack saw blade I've had all that time. I do all six cuts with the hack saw blade for classics. I've gotten pretty good at it I guess and the customers are happy. I bought an expensive nut file set and I just can't seem to do as well as with my magic hack saw blade. I even use it for bass nuts. I start with a straight cut to depth then starting at the top, I tilt the blade from side to side to carve the width.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:04 pm 
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I'm really leaning towards the ones warmoth stocks.
For all those that have said kind things about the guitar. Thank you. That's actually the more classy looking photos of it. Lets just say I'm learning some things about styling.
* I like figured woods
*I'll never use plastic bindings again (not custom and elegant looking enough. atleast not pearloid. Hope it yellows up a lot [but without shrinking]
*umm... I think I'll stick to one type of wood between back and sides. wtf was I thinking?

*Oh, and no more veneers on rosettes. Getting it perfectly flush is almost impossible but man that figure is gorgeous!

Here's a build thread and includes the git my old man's making too which is all quilted maple. Perhaps I'dve done all quilted too if resawing the lumber had went differently. Some turned out thin and some turned out REALLY thin!
http://www.acousticguitarforum.com/foru ... 810&page=2


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:21 pm 
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I have the hosco set like warmouth sells but mine goes up to .056 and has 10 files sold by Heinl Violin in Toronto, I also have hosco fret files that are quite good. Hosco has a web site listing all their products in English.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:57 am 
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Michael wrote:
I make about 3 or 4 nuts a week for the last 35 years and I use a jewlers saw for string 1 and 2 on electrics and steel strings then (you won't believe this) I cut the other notches with the same hack saw blade I've had all that time. I do all six cuts with the hack saw blade for classics. I've gotten pretty good at it I guess and the customers are happy. I bought an expensive nut file set and I just can't seem to do as well as with my magic hack saw blade. I even use it for bass nuts. I start with a straight cut to depth then starting at the top, I tilt the blade from side to side to carve the width.
Michael


That method would produce a flat(ish) bottomed slot with one point of contact (if we ignore any contact at the sides of the string). I've also heard of some Classical makers who cut V slots using just one triangular needle file. I guess that would produce two points of contact. Perhaps it has a tendency to wear out the grooves faster but that may not be a huge deal on the softer strings of a Classical.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 3:05 am 
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V slots are bad news, because it tends to bind the string and causes early string breakage.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:55 am 
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Another vote for the SM files and their string spacing ruler. I used needle files on #1 and 2, but after chasing some
strange overtones on a couple of strings (traced down to nut grooves), I spent the money on the correct diameter
files- so much easier to get a good looking nut, IMHO.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:39 am 
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Very timely thread for me as I made my first nut yesterday and realize slotting files are probably a good idea.


Fred Tellier wrote:
I have the hosco set like warmouth sells but mine goes up to .056 and has 10 files sold by Heinl Violin in Toronto, I also have hosco fret files that are quite good. Hosco has a web site listing all their products in English.

Fred


Fred, how does Heinl compare for price? Like to get things "local" if I can to avoid shipping and duty but some things there seem to be marked up quite a bit. Although they do have a lot of decent prices.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:19 pm 
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I got mine on sale a while back, check out their on line price lists. I deal with Gary Gouger by phone and email, he is a pleasure to do business with. I buy mostly cases from them but the nut files and fret crowning files were too good of a deal to pass on, one of my buddies has the three double sided file set and he is quite happy with them also. I also am happy when I can eliminate the border issues and buy from a Canadian supplier, it is so much quicker and usually not that much more cost though the sales tax is a pain.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:23 pm 
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Tai Fu wrote:
V slots are bad news, because it tends to bind the string and causes early string breakage.

I can't imagine a V slot would ever be good. I've done a few nuts that were perfect squares and they work well.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:58 pm 
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I didn't think they sold the 10 piece kit anymore which seemed odd. Their (the 8 piece) sizes go from .040 to .050 which seems like quite a large gap for different setups. When it was a 10 piece it had a .045 or .046 I believe.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:08 am 
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Love the Stewmac nut slotting ruler!

I have several different brands of round edge slitting files, some Grobet, some Japanese, a few Stewmac. I tried the "Norman" files, to see if he had built a better mousetrap--he hadn't, they went dull after three nuts.

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